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Gen 2 G19 is slam firing

Discussion in 'General Glocking' started by GoBigOrange, Feb 21, 2012.

  1. GoBigOrange

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    So I have been looking for a Gen 2 G19 for months. I finally found one one Sunday. It was listed here in the classifieds.

    Once I got home I took out the horrid NY1 trigger spring and put the original trigger spring back in. This is where it got scary. I noticed that 50% of the time I dry fired it the trigger would pull as it should and the firing pin would fall but the other 50% of the time the trigger would pull but the firing pin would not fall.

    I took it to a local Glock armorer here in Orlando and I explained the problem He started to dry fire it and his eyes got pretty big when he realized the gun was slam firing when he racked the slide. Not only that, but he said it would go full auto if I were to try and shoot it.

    He took it apart and tried replacing everything. Long story short, no matter what he replaced the problem continued. He said this was the first Glock in 11 years of working in the store that he has been unable to diagnose the problem. He flat out said the gun was dangerous and that it needed to go back to Glock.He didn't even feel comfortable having it in the store. I'm pretty pissed that the member here on Glocktalk would knowingly trade me a dangerous gun.:steamed: I am so thankful I didn't load this thing in my apartment.

    I left a message with Glock and I am praying they will fix it without costing me a fortune.
     
  2. tonyparson

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    Oh ya Glock will fix it. I doubt they will charge you to fix it too..
     


  3. GoBigOrange

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    I hope. I certainly wouldn't blame them if they did because someone has obviously screwed with this gun. It certainly isn't Glock's fault.

    Any idea how much it will cost to ship a gun?
     
  4. 8th ID

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    Shipping prices will vary depending on who is doing the shipping. IF you can get an FFL daler to ship it for you, that would be much cheaper. In my area I have paid as much as $70!!!! FedEx will ship but I was told it MUST go overnight.
     
  5. eclark53520

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    Obviously there is something terribly wrong with the firing pin block.
     
  6. Glockdude1

    Glockdude1 Federal Member CLM

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    :agree:
     
  7. Maybe it is one of those ultra rare G18 1/2's.

    Full auto in a pocket pistol... ;)

    Seriously, send the gun back to Glock for repair/replacement.
     
  8. Bruce M

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    That right there is THE Holy Grail of Glocks
     
  9. bentbiker

    bentbiker NRA Member

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    OP, did you by any chance remove the FP safety plunger while you were changing out the NY1 spring? Regardless, have you checked the FP safety plunger spring to see if it is properly seated in the plunger? It should be locked in the plunger.
     
  10. Melissa5

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    Wow! I'm glad you caught that before you tried it with ammo. Sorry you got a messed up gun. Keep us posted about what Glock does to it.
     
  11. JBP55

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    Check the safety plunger and spring for proper installation as well as the trigger bar and firing pin for proper contact..
     
  12. GoBigOrange

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    I didn't touch the safety plunger at all. For what it's worth guys, the armorer took the slide completely apart and changed out the firing pin..It still did not solve the issue.
     
  13. Priapism

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    "He took it apart and tried replacing everything. "

    I doubt that he did this.
     
  14. GoBigOrange

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    Ok, and why is that? I was standing right next to him watching and discussing as we worked through it.

    Re replaced the trigger spring, trigger housing, trigger bar, firing pin, the plunger for the extractor.. etc etc.
     
  15. Priapism

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    Because if he replaced everything it would have fixed it.
     
  16. SCC

    SCC Member Me

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    does it have the + trigger bar in it ?
     
  17. Check my Gat

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    +1 that he did not replace everything.

    And if you're having an undiagnosed safety issue, that is what you need to do. Replacing everything is the A-bomb of maintenance and should solve all issues assuming your slide and frame are intact everytime.
     
  18. Atomic Punk

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    very interested in what the cause is. if you dont figure it out before it goes to glock. i hope they actually tell you.
     
  19. ijacek

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    Did he happen to check the proper engagement of the trigger bar against the firing pin? Done with the use of the orange slide cover plate.
     
  20. bentbiker

    bentbiker NRA Member

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    Why didn't he feel comfortable with it in the store? Sounds a bit melodramatic.

    As for as the GT member "knowingly" trading you a defective gun . . . did it exhibit the problem before you changed the trigger spring?
     
    Last edited: Feb 21, 2012