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Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

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  1. Flintlocker

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    http://www.kbzk.com/news/gates-some-benghazi-critics-have-cartoonish-view-of-military-capability/


    "Frankly, had I been in the job at the time, I think my decisions would have been just as theirs were," said Gates, now the chancellor of the College of William and Mary.

    "We don't have a ready force standing by in the Middle East, and so getting somebody there in a timely way would have been very difficult, if not impossible." he explained.

    Suggestions that we could have flown a fighter jet over the attackers to "scare them with the noise or something," Gates said, ignored the "number of surface to air missiles that have disappeared from [former Libyan leader] Qaddafi's arsenals."

    "I would not have approved sending an aircraft, a single aircraft, over Benghazi under those circumstances," he said.

    Another suggestion posed by some critics of the administration, to, as Gates said, "send some small number of special forces or other troops in without knowing what the environment is, without knowing what the threat is, without having any intelligence in terms of what is actually going on on the ground, would have been very dangerous."


    "It's sort of a cartoonish impression of military capabilities and military forces," he said. "The one thing that our forces are noted for is planning and preparation before we send people in harm's way, and there just wasn't time to do that."
     

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    Addressing the article:

    Lie, the ready force was ordered to stand down.

    We attacked Libya with air power in 2011 and flew planes in and out of Libya as a matter of routine.


    Ok, we don't send in any air support because why?


    Yeah, that's what rapid response teams do.

    You don't always have time to plan raid, when you are responding to a surprise enemy attack. This hack is simply trying to protect the administration.
     

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    One member of the quick reaction force died at the CIA compound.

    Try not failing so hard next time you start speaking out of your arse.
     
  5. DonGlock26

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    Source?
     
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    One thing that seems curious to me is that discussions of response seem to center on Aviano, Italy and the forces there.
    Did we not have carriers in the Med?
    Seems that they would have been a lot closer, if they were indeed there.
     
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    That's because Attkissons boss "David," is Obama speechwriter "Ben Rhodes" brother, and the president of CBS!
     
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    You want to ante up a source for this tidbit?
     
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    I have heard no mention of naval assets at all. I'm waiting for that to come out.

    I'd also like to know where did the drone come from? Why wasn't to armed? Were armed drones available and ordered to stand down too? If there were armed drones available and they were not used to save American lives, then Obama resignation is assured.
     
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    Incest between the media and the political elite is rampant in Washington.
     
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    This is common knowledge and can be found from numerous credible sources, but probably not the disinformation factories that you pay attention to: His name was Glen Doherty.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...2d152c6-2f99-11e2-9f50-0308e1e75445_blog.html
     
  12. Flintlocker

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    I guess it's no surprise that this is news to the wingnuts out there. Right wing news and blogs have no interest in the truth... they make their money by winding you up and sending you off on emotional tirades.
     
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    You seem to have painted yourself into a corner.




    Your OP source made this claim:

    Yet, you claimed this:

    So which is it? You can't both be telling the truth.
     
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  14. Flintlocker

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    Good lord, you can't be this dumb, can you?

    So after you start calling out your hallucinations of lies and doing your little victory dance, you're going to try to make it a matter of semantics? Yeah, I guess you're that dumb.

    Perhaps you should go read a timeline of events in Benghazi and inform yourself of what happened.

    No matter how you try to skirt the issue, a quick reaction force was sent from Tripoli, more than 400 miles away from Benghazi. One of them died at the CIA compound. These are the facts. Just because you didn't, or don't, comprehend them has no bearing on the truth.
     
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    Got to love when Bush-haters defend Glorious Leader with Bushies and Bush equivocation.
     
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    I don't believe fl is lying. I believe has has been so indoctrinated in the cult of HWSNBN, that s/he can no longer differentiate between truth and propaganda.

    Barring that, s/he is duplicitous in perpetuating the coverup of the murder of our citizens. Maybe s/he agrees with the, they were going to die one day anyway, what's the big deal? Theory that the extreme liberals (democrats) seem to favor.
     
  17. Flintlocker

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    Propaganda? Here I go explaining what actually happened in Libya to people that largely seem unconcerned with the truth and it's propaganda... That's rich.

    Here's another word for ya. Hypocrites. They're the kind of people that barely batted an eyelash after the President ignores months worth of intelligence warnings, one of which was entitled "Bin Laden determined to strike in US" and spend months hyperventilating over Benghazi. They're the kind of people that ignore the more than half dozen attacks on US diplomatic facilities that resulted in dozen of deaths during the previous administration and make Benghazi the biggest foreign policy disaster in the last 100 years. They're the kind of people that yawn when an administration has the Secretary of State present a series of provable lies about mobile weapons labs with the direct intent of starting the most expensive and unnecessary war in the history of the world and sit opining on their computers about how Obama's and Clinton's action in Benghazi amount to treason. Hypocrites.
     
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    Yeah, because the AAA and ground to air missile defensive capacity of a bunch of AlQuaeda morons if far superior to that of the entire regiments of specialized units who were defending Baghdad during the first days of the US invasion in Iraq.
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  20. Flintlocker

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    Hmm, who do I trust more? USAF officer, 26 year veteran of the CIA and NSC, Director of the CIA under GHWB and Secretary of Defense under GWB. Or some confused keyboard commandos trying to undermine a President they despise. It's a tough decision...
     
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