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Gary Johnson?

Discussion in 'Political Issues' started by Kablam, Jun 27, 2012.

  1. Kablam

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    Why have the Ron Paul supporters not talked much about Gary Johnson? He's the libertarian candidate correct? He actually has some "real" libertarian experience in an executive position. He's running for president, Ron Paul is not.
     
  2. G-19

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    Very Good question, I can't wait to see the answers.
     


  3. JBnTX

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    Because Ron Paul supporters and Gary Johnson supporters are from two different worlds.

    Ron Paul supporters are less libertarianism and more selfish anarchism. Pro drug legalization, pay no taxes and a "hooray for me and to hell with you attitude".

    Gary Johnson is a better representative of libertarianism and the responsibilities that go with it. Ron Paul supporters want none of that.
     
  4. concretefuzzynuts

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    I've been a Libertarian since 1982. I won't vote for either Ron or Gary. The reason? It's more important in this election to get Obama out and there's no way Gary Johnson will win.
     
  5. G-19

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    Thank you, finally someone gets it.
     
  6. Kablam

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    Kidding about what please? I asked a legitimate question relating to all the Ron Paul talk and how he's the constituional guy and libertarian, etc. I find it interesting that the Libertarian candidate Johnson actually has a libertarian record in an executive position (delivered on his philosophy if you will) and nobody talks about him. Yet, Ron Paul, who has basically written and talked about the libertarian philosophy, but never led from an executive stand point, nor has he really accomplished any of his talking points, seems to get all the juice. Gary Johnson stands a better chance (abeit statistically the same) of getting elected than Ron Paul who is not running. If the "libertarians" want a libertarian president, why are they not supporting Johnson instead of Paul?
     
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  7. JFrame

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    The one time I saw Johnson speak in a public forum, I found him very dry and uninspiring. He might have been a great governor for all I know, but libertarians in general might perceive that he doesn't have the charisma or mojo to generate much enthusiasm on a national scale.

    Just a thought, with absolutely nothing to back it up... :)


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  8. Kablam

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    That makes some sense for sure, and I agree with you. I'm thinking about the "libertarians" that keep screaming that since their "libertarian" candidate didn't win the GOP primary, they will vote for Obama before they'll vote for Romney. Why don't they support the libertarian candidate that is running (Johnson) rather than the cadidate that couldn't be much more polar opposite (Obama) to what they espouse that they want. They say they're too principled to vote obama-lite (Romney), won't vote the lesser of two evils, the GOP sucks, etc., but they're not principled enough to vote for their party's nominee.
     
  9. JFrame

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    Interesting point...Given how you present it, one can hardly look at a vote for Obama as not being a) a "punishment" vote; b) a vote to accelerate the drive over the cliff; or c) both.


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  10. Ruble Noon

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    Gary Johnson will be getting a lot of the Ron Paul supporters votes.
     
  11. JFrame

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    That may indeed be the case -- but I believe the OP's point is that we're not hearing much (if any) vocal support for Johnson.


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  12. Ruble Noon

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    Not on this forum anyhow.
     
  13. chickenwing

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    Good points.

    Never heard him speak in person, but he wasn't very good in the debates and I think that is one of his problems.

    I think some RP supporters are holding onto till the bitter end, thinking his delegate strategy will pan out.
     
  14. JFrame

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    Fair enuff...


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  15. chickenwing

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    If this election comes down to Barry, Mitt, and Gary, I will be voting for Gary.



    The one thing I do like about Gary Johnson that you brought up is your point concerning executive experience, and I'd like to add business experience as well. Which makes him a better candidate then Ron.

    Don't know if he has the money to compete with Barry and Mitt on a national scale, still will be interesting if a third party could gain some traction and shake things up a bit. Doubtful, never know though.
     
  16. JFrame

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    Good points also...! [​IMG]


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  17. tyesai

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    "Not only is it immoral and undignified, it’s destructive. Lesser or greater, evil is evil. By supporting one evil or the other, the voter becomes an accessory to the crime. Only a true intellectual revolution can restore dignity, trust, morality, decency and compassion." (Celente) http://lewrockwell.com/celente/celente100.html

    I tend to agree. What I don't think a lot of people get is that although Ron Paul was a focal point on the national stage it isn't about him. For me it is about being true to my core values which is far more important than which one of the two puppets gets crowned....

    In the end I'll probably just abstain from voting in the national elections.
     
  18. DonGlock26

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    Because the Democrat faux RP supporters don't see GJ taking votes away from Romney in any numbers.


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