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Gandang gabi mga Kabayan, Kimber question

Discussion in 'Band of Glockers' started by VICARA, Jul 23, 2005.

  1. VICARA

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    I'm new to this forum. I registered like last week but only couple of days ago, I got an email (clearance to post) from Eric although I've been browsing this site for a month or so. Sana po, welcome po ako dito...

    3 months ago, I visited the Phil. Stayed there for 2 weeks. Me and my brother-in-law went out one day and checked out one gun store. I dont remember where but its in a 2nd or 3rd floor of a mall. Bibili sana ng baril para madala sa province kasi I heard theres a new shooting range in one of the local resort. Anyway, hindi nangyari dahil ang sabi ay its a 30-day waiting period. I had my eyes on a 1911 stainless Para in .45 cal. (or maybe .40?) Nakakabigla din ang price: P75K, if I'm remember right...Hindi rin ako naasikaso ng maayos dahil busy yung sales associate.

    Ano po ba ang mga detalye ng pagbili ng baril diyan? Is it really 30-day waiting period? What about requirements i.e. id's, clearances, training certificate, etc. Can a dealer provide a buyer all the necessary paperworks? What about permit to carry (ccw) or at least permit to transport from house to range.

    I'm planning again to come down next month or early Sept to bring/install my sister's server. I appreciate any advice/tips/comments on how to do this right.

    Lastly, is/are there authorized dealer of Kimbers in the Phil?

    Thank you po and FYI, I love reading all the posts in here.

    vicara
     
  2. isuzu

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    If I'm not mistaken, the dealer for Kimber in the Philippines is Nashe Enterprises.

    As to the waiting period, it depends on how the gun store does a follow-up on your application and it also depends on their connections inside.

    Last time I purchased a pistol, the requirements were: PNP Clearance(purchase of firearms), Fiscal and Court Clearance, Income Tax Return, Drug Test, Neuro-Psycho Test (lahat na lang na test nandiyan!) ;9. If your citizenship is other than Filipino, you can't qualify for a firearm.

    FED rules change from time to time. Just check with the gun dealer. They might be able to work out something with you.
     


  3. VICARA

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    thanks isuzu. That was enlightening...I did not realized the requirements are that many!
    The gun will be in my son's name; guess I'm not qualify anymore. Its just something to use/pack when I'm on vacation plus my son just started on this sport. And he seems to be very interested; He mentioned a G19 and G23. He is a newbie and I was advising him to start on a .22 (i.e. SW Model 41 or the likes) just to get the basics but he said he likes a bigger bang. So be it. I prefer a .45 myself maybe a G21 or G30 or... 1911. I shoot a friend's G26 when I was still in Hawaii and I thought its controlable despite the size. But I still love 1911s :)

    Any suggestions on indoor range in the neighborhood of Cainta? or Pasig? Do they have rentals?

    By the way, whats the ave price of a G21 in Phil? Is it true you cannot purchase a cal bigger that .40?

    -vicara

    thanks for the welcome, JuDGe...
     
  4. jasonub

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    you can buy the 500 magnum they were displaying in the last gunshow. If budjet is not a concern you can get the s_i. if your on a budget an armscor will do just fine.

    but both should be tuned to be reliable.

    welcome to the bogs
     
  5. Alexii

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    Welcome to the BOGs, VICARA!

    I've fired the G21, G30, and the 1911. The Glock .45s have substantial girth that may seem uncomfortable when first handling it, but nothing a few range time cannot handle. The 1911 single stack, now that's another story; you'll immediately love this gun at first grip: the grip angle, the trigger and the ensuing first-shot accuracy, the endless potential for customization, etc. Not to mention that 1911 parts abound here more than any other gun parts.
     
  6. atmarcella

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    overwatch....
    ;F , all the requirements mentioned above can be had for a fee, i think 5k, medyo strict lang sila sa gun safety seminar these days, cguradohin mo lang that yung downpayment mo 2k-5k lang and make sure to get the serial no. of the gun you're making the downpayment for, this is to make sure na yung baril nandito na sa pinas sa safekeeping ng FED, there are unscrupulous dealers that will ask for 20k downpayment and yung baril in transit pa lang papunta dito sa pinas or worst di pa nila na order, parang pre-selling, it happened to me with trimark ventures the official HK distributor before, i was one of the lucky ones that got a refund, many didnt, good luck sir, happy shooting:)
     
  7. isuzu

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    This is worth checking. You might be qualified to own one if you have dual citizenship status.;Y I heard madali lang mag apply ng dual citizen status at the Consulate there.
     
  8. isuzu

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    That's a good heads up for Vicara! I know that some dealers will just tell you that the license processing is taking long, but actually the gun is never in their stock. It's the bad gun dealers that are teaching gun enthusiasts not to trust them. They try to make a fast buck, but in the long run, they ruin their reputation. Hindi na nila yata alam kung ano ang ibig sabihin ng "suki."

    One thing that your son would also consider is the single stack 1911, as told by Alexii. Mahirap bitawan pag nasa kamay mo na! Nasisira tuloy ang budget.;) They're very easy to maintain(parts are readily available in the Philippines), and most of all, you could do almost anything to a 1911 para gumanda.
     
  9. VICARA

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    thanks everybody for chipping in. isuzu, by any chance u know if Nashe has a web site? or a contact number? I googled but found something else.

    Alexii, you're right about 1911 single stack. I've been shooting them since 1992 and it seems i cannot make myself seriously considering a shift to a different platform although I have an HK USP compact 9mm in my humble collection. Back in Hawaii, I was into bullseye shooting. An avid and passionate new shooter at that! I even own a Dillon 550. My club is like 85% Pinoy and I can proudly say, they dominate competetitions and I was in awe. I wished I can build up a small, tiny, fraction of that proficiency. Then I get hooked into combat shooting. Briefly though 'cause I moved to the Bay Area for a new job. Oh man, I wish I did not let go of my piece. Ngayon wala na, its been years since I did those kind of shooting. Every other weekend, I visit the range in my neighborhood but you cannot even do a double tap and head shots. Mga pulis lang puwedeng mag DT.

    Although I worked here in the Bay Area, my official residence is in Las Vegas. I have a CCW there and some 'bonafide' shooting range around where you can do some serious shooting to your heart's content.

    Anyway, baka may mga BOGs from the Bay Area who are into IPSC/IDPA, if you can let me know where/how can I start again. I'm 'middle age' but I can still move pretty good. (kaya???) Sa tutuo lang hingal kalabaw na but, you know, no harm in trying... again. ;Q

    So anybody knows an indoor range in the Cainta/Pasig area? (re:my previous query)I'm pretty sure, my son will bug me when I get there. But I'm glad, he's into the sport too. I want to start him slowly but I like him to pick up the right attitude now that he is still green.

    BTW, how you guys reload? In Phil, can you own a reloader or is it govt-controlled stuff.

    -vicara
     
  10. Mang Danny

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    Have you met Ed Masaki? He's old school first class bullseye gunsmith and multi champion in bullseye.
     
  11. VICARA

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    yes, I know Ed Masaki. He actually did a trigger job on my Throphy Match. He must be older by now but he was a master long before I started bullseye. He was also a frequent Camp Perry attendee. His house full of shooting gear; medals and throphy all over the place. we new/young(er) guys buy stuff from him, I still have my aluminum case along with the spotting scope. I hope he's still around. Any news from him? He's a well-know figure at Koko Head.
     
  12. Mang Danny

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    I know him by reputation only. Some BE shooters here have actually shot with him at Camp Perry. Hopefully by December, I might take a vacation to Hawaii and network with him.;)
     
  13. VICARA

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    mang danny, I noticed you're from So California. San Diego area ba kayo? I visit some relatives in Chula Vista at times, and I was wondering if there are indoor range(s) in the area...
     
  14. Mang Danny

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    You hit the X ring!!! Sa Chula Vista ako. Maraming ranges dito. I prefer Discount Gunmart (indoor) 20 miles north of here. Staff is friendly and cheap prices.
     
  15. VICARA

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    thanks for the info, mang danny. will take note of the place and will visit next time I'll be in the neighborhood. My Uncle is a retired Navy and he is into the sport too but medyo pumapalya na. Baka magkita-kita pa tayo don...
     
  16. vega

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    Hi VICARA,

    Welcome to the forum! ;c

    Then your son is Filipino citizen. There will be some legal complications. You cannot pack it nor take it to the range since it is not registered to you. If ever you are stop by a cop and he noticed that you have a pistol in your vehicle, he might ask for your PTT (Permit to Transport) and it is not under your name. Gun transport is very different in the Philippines. Here in US we don't need PTT to bring our firearms to the ranges. We can loan our gun to a friend and he can legally bring it to the range. In RP, whoever is the registered owner must be the own to bring it to the range.

    No, that's not true. If you want to buy bigger than 9mm all you have to do is be a member of any accredited firing range. In order for you to have a PTT, you must be a member of any accredited firing range.

    vega
     
  17. VICARA

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    I don't intend to carry it myself. Nag-aalangan ako sa mga pulis natin diyan; hindi ko nila-lahat pero karamihan. And since I dont want to be in trouble, I'll have my son with me all the times. And you know kids when the dad is in town, 'pakitang gilas mga yun at kapit-tuko para mas maraming madelihensiya. I'm also considering isuzu's suggestion of getting a dual citizenship. Pero sa tutuo lang, when we were in the province, I noticed some guys na may dala. 'Kala ko bawal ang concealed carry even if you're a cop or military. Well, then again, I should not be surprised!

    Good to know civilian can purchase .45 cal, I guess I got the wrong info. Then I can safely aspire for a .45!

    atmarcella, thanks for the contact#. i'll give them a buzz Sunday afternoon and check if they carry Kimbers. Kung kaya, Kimber Royal or Gold Match sana and a G19 for junior. Mga magkano kaya ang damage for those?

    Mukhang walang tip sa query ko in my previous post. Sige, kahit saan na. Where can we shoot in Metro Manila? Basta indoor at may RO na naka duty.

    vicara
     
  18. isuzu

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    Bakit? Hindi ba nila gustong malaman na may mga civilians na mas mabilis pa mag head shots or double tap sa pulis? ;f Joke lang po.^1