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G34 load data

Discussion in 'Reloading' started by whatsupglock, Dec 3, 2009.

  1. whatsupglock

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    <!-- BEGIN TEMPLATE: ad_showthread_firstpost_start --><!-- END TEMPLATE: ad_showthread_firstpost_start -->I purchased a Glock 34 for IDPA/Steel Challenge/IPSC/USPSA. 9mm ammo is sparse to say the least where I live, so I am in the beginning stages of reloading. I will be loading on a Dillon 550. Probably try to load between 125,000 to 130,000 power factor.

    I'm looking hard at Montana Gold 115 fmj, 124 fmj, 124 jhp, and 147 jhp. I'm also considering Zero bullets, but I'm leaning more towards Montana Gold. Powders...I'm open to here what people are using and the results they're getting.

    Any load data regarding these bullets would be greatly appreciated. Especially if you are or have shot the loads through a g34 and chronographed. Specifics are welcomed and encouraged. Thanks in advance.

    Any g34 load data would be welcome.
     
  2. shotgunred

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  3. cysoto

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    These days finding Small Pistol Primers is just as hard (if not harder) than finding 9mm ammo. :faint:

    The BE Forum has tons of load info for what you are trying to accomplish.
    Make sure to spend some time searching through the older posts.
     
  4. Colorado4Wheel

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    You want a 124 gr bullet or a 147 gr. You want to use Titegroup or Solo1000 if you want to find easy choices for starting loads. You want to load to a little more then 130PF. Mine is

    124gr Montana Gold or 125 gr Zero 38Super bullets (both are RN).
    4.2 grs of Solo 1000.
    1.130 OAL
    Gets me over 130PF.

    Titegroup is probably your best choice from the volume of people using it. I prefer Solo 1000. My buddie loads nearly the same as me except uses TiteGroup.
     
  5. Boxerglocker

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    124g PD FMJ backed with 4.0g TG at 1.130 got me 1050 fps with a standard deviation of 6 at WA State IDPA Championship this year out of my G34 with stock barrel. That's right at 130PF :supergrin:

    I'm currently loading 147g LFP with 3.4g Solo1000 at the same OAL, runs at 890-910 fps (128-132 Pf) but out of my LWD barrel.
     
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  6. ede

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  7. Colorado4Wheel

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    I too ran 3.4 gr with 147 gr bullets and Solo, same OAL. Same PF. Your TG data is similiar to my old TG data as well. Solo works best with 124 gr and above bullets in 9mm. TG is the old Hotness and Solo is working on being the new Hotness. Titegroup is more versital with light bullets in 9mm.
     
  8. slowhand23

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    I like HP38 & Titegroup as well, never tried Solo 1000. How does Solo compare to TG?
     
  9. Boxerglocker

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    I went with Solo, specifically for lead 147g FP.... Solo doesn't burn as hot as TG and alot less smoke (with lead) than TG. I still prefer FMJ as opposed to lead bullets but cost per a round in order to shoot 147g 9mm subsonics necessitates my need to go with the lead, thus Solo. I paid for the cost of my used LWB barrel for the G34 in less than 3K rounds.
     
  10. Boxerglocker

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    Well C4W... I give credit where credit is due... my pet loads where developed based on input from numerous individuals you included. Then I confirmed and verified myself. :embarassed:
     
  11. Hydraulicman

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    For Factory + velocity get yourself some Power pistol

    For when you want to shoot some REAL 9mm:supergrin:
     
  12. ron59

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    I'm shooting the 147gr Montana Bullet over 3.4gr of Solo 1000. Sweet and soft shooting stuff. Out of a G17 though, not a 34.
     
  13. njl

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    124gr PD FMJ or MG CMJ, 4.3-4.4gr Universal Clays, 1.145-1.155 OAL, from my G34 does right around 1070fps or a 133 PF. Shooting these out of the G17, I only lose about an 10-15fps on the avg.

    Any lighter with this load, and I'd be worried about cycling stock Glocks. I've shot around 1000 of them so far without any malfunctions.
     
  14. Colorado4Wheel

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    I still have to run a light recoil spring just to get 100% weak handed reliability with the same 130PF
     
  15. Colorado4Wheel

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    For me and what I want it to do I prefer Solo.

    1) Fills the case better. A lot better.
    2) Smokes less even with jacketed bullets. Not a huge thing but its does smoke less.
    3) Has excellent results on the chrono in regards to standard deviation.
    4) Very nice feel. Not that titegroup is bad just that Solo is as good if not better.

    Downsides.

    Load data is a little weak. A lot of people have to go over book (which is over a decade old) just to get PF. Load data is also all loaded on the very short side so it's really hard to know what actual pressure is when you load in the 1.130 range. It will not push light bullets fast. There is no 147gr load data that I have seen (other then internet, user provided stuff).

    My take on Solo is that it's a gamers powder. Perfect for those that like to work up loads on a chrono with typical gaming heavier bullets. It's also perfect for those that like a real bulky powder and don't care what PF they make but just want a soft shooting round. TG has better load data by far. And you can run it faster. My rounds show no pressure signs and shoot very nicely. I use Power Pistol for real 9mm loads.
     
  16. njl

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    Well...my G34 and G17 aren't exactly new and each has thousands of rounds through it...so maybe their springs have lightened over the years.
     
  17. Colorado4Wheel

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    Where does Universal Clays stand on a burn rate chart compared to Solo 1000 and Hodgon Clays. Universal Clays is not on my chart. Unless it's the same as Universal.
     
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  18. D. Manley

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    C4W's got it about right. S-1000 is terrific as a gamer powder or, for just soft-shooting fun with good accuracy particularly, with heavier 9MM bullet weights. TG is also very good and is more versatile for different bullet weights.

    For dead-nutz accuracy in 9MM I'd go to WSF, Silhouette, VV N-330 or (bad as I hate the "flash/bang"), Power Pistol. FWIW, I've downloaded WSF, Silhouette and N-330 for 147 grain bullets very successfully. 3.7 to 3.8 grains of WSF or N-330 is a great load with 147 grain JHP or FMJ bullets.
     
  19. fredj338

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    Universal is about like Unique, but burn rate does vary w/ bore & cartridge. I get to max in 44mag sooner w/ Universal than Unique or WSF. In 9mm they seem pretty close. Clays, a whole nother ball game. Way to freaky w/ higher pressures. I won't use it in anything but low end 45acp target loads, & I have WST for that, so I won't buy anymore after this 1# test can is gone.:dunno: