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G34/competition guns use in defense and court defense

Discussion in 'GATE Self-Defense Forum' started by bambooi, Apr 13, 2011.

  1. bambooi


    Feb 24, 2010
    Is the Use of g34 the same as using a modified gun in court? I have read about the threads of people using modified guns and ammoand defending themselves in court. The question at hand is what about g34s and competition type pistols? Do these weapons fall into the same category as a modified gun or ammo?
  2. Mas Ayoob

    Mas Ayoob KoolAidAntidote Moderator

    Nov 6, 2005
    Problem is the trigger pull, bro. The 3.5 (4.5) lb trigger is an option Glock has made abundantly clear should only be used on recreational (target) pistols. G34s and G35s ordered by police departments are fitted with standard 5.5 lb trigger pulls before being shipped from the factory.

    A pull lighter than factory recommendation for a defense gun makes you look arrogant and reckless in court, and plays into opposing counsel's hands if they choose to claim that your intentional self-defense shooting was an indefensible accident. Prosecutors have been known to do that because they know that proving malice in a deliberate murder case is hard, but proving negligence in a manslaughter case is relatively easy, particularly if the defendant has made their job easier by using what a lay person might easily be convinced is a "hair trigger." They also know that there's no such thing as a "justifiable accident" in the eyes of the law. In civil lawsuits, plaintiffs' lawyers know that most of us don't have enough unprotected assets to make us worth suing, but homeowners' insurance has deep pockets and will have to pay off if they convince the jury you shot the burglar negligently by accident.

    For much more detail on this, see the sticky in the concealed carry section here at Glock Talk, about the liability aspects of 3.5 pound connectors.