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G21 breech face indentation.

Discussion in 'General Glocking' started by vaquero aleman, Jan 28, 2013.

  1. kodiakpb

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    I don't know man...that sure looks like a FDE to me. Glock does make the FDE...it's just an exclusive for Lipsey's. I guess it's possible for the guy you talked to...to have never seen one, but that seems strange to me. Then again you said that you have owned an OD before...so you should know whether it is or not.

    Either way you made out like a bandit, congrats.
     
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  3. crash_gsxr750

    crash_gsxr750 Arrows first

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    No mints ?

    Glock sure takes care of their customers
     
  4. vaquero aleman

    vaquero aleman "ah-lay-mahn"

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    All I got for freebies was the ball cap and a sticker that says Glock.
     
  5. WinterWizard

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    The post IS the complaint. It's like saying, "I put a 800 horsepower V-10 in my Ford Ranger and I blew up the transmission. Has anyone else seen this...?"
     
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  6. Joshhtn

    Joshhtn The eBay Guy Silver Member

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    It's OD.
     
  7. vaquero aleman

    vaquero aleman "ah-lay-mahn"

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    Yeh, I forgot, when I used to go to family barbeques, leaving the food out in the open did tend to draw a few flies.
     
  8. AgentM79

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    That's certainly a gun/round combo that puts boot-to-arse! I'm glad you got to have some fun with it. I'd say get another G21 just to use with .45ACP, and keep the FDE G21 set-up for the .460 Rowland. That is certainly taking your Glock experience to the "next level".
     
  9. roger123

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    Here's the $64,000 question, are you going to try the 460 again?
     
  10. vaquero aleman

    vaquero aleman "ah-lay-mahn"

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    I believe that if I do it won't be with a Glock slide. I will definitely get an aftermarket slide since they are made to improve the characteristics of the Glock slide. The LWD and Caspian slides advertise their Rockwell hardness, where Glock does not. Although, from what I saw on the Caspian web site, they don't offer a G21 slide.

    I'm not going to give up on .460 Rowland. But I am going to be a lot more cautious with how I go about it.

    Here's another pic that looks more like OD Green.

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  11. AgentM79

    AgentM79 Platinum Member

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    Do it, Vaq! It is your destiny!
     
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  12. vaquero aleman

    vaquero aleman "ah-lay-mahn"

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    Funny thing is, I have never shot 460 Rowland with the appropriate compensator. I have only shot it from a 4.75" straight barrel using a Sprinco recoil reducer set up for Rowland and believe me when I tell you brother, it is like "Holy S@#T"! After shooting the 230gr Rowland I shot some 45 ACP - It felt like I was shooting a 9mil.
     
  13. voonman

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    Hi Vaquero I just came across your post on my thread that someone left

    Glad you made this follow up result on your 460rowland conversion that you did..I am trying to figure out what could have possibly cause the dishing in your slide..Could it have been possibly faulty ammo?Glocks Steel?Or a non compensated barrel?I couldnt figure it out..I contacted one of my buddies that is a gunsmith and i showed him your pics..He says he has never seen that in a glock slide before..he is convinced that it could be a slightly over pressured cartridge above factory 460rowland specs that could have caused this..maybe not so much the compensator..But it is too hard to determine without actually looking at the last set of cartridges that you fired right after you found this fault..I currently have 1300+ 460R rounds fired threw my glock30 and i have no signs of dishing or wobbling..I did also talk to Thomas from 460rowland.com and he said never try to fire the glock conversion without the compensator..If it is done it will overall tear down your glock..I am assuming this could be one of the factors?I have taken a few photos of my slide for your viewing ..I will also keep an eye out after i shoot another 400 through it..Below are the pics
     
  14. vaquero aleman

    vaquero aleman "ah-lay-mahn"

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    Thanks Voonman. I am disappointed that the people at Glock did not further discuss the probabilities for the damage, with me. But it will all come out in the wash. I plan on, eventually, getting an LWD slide and starting over. I am still waiting for the 20/21 Timberwolf frames to be offered by LWD and then, I just may build an entire gun from scratch. Anyway, Happy shooting!
     
  15. Tiro Fijo

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  16. mo.glocker

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    Rowland says its the comp or ported barrel that slows the slide. Down enough to where this don't happen,he needs to use one of the two to avoid this problem:wavey:
     
  17. voonman

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    I guess it would be best to buy one of johnny rowlands factor 460R glock conversion kits instead of making one yourself..
     
  18. mo.glocker

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    he says the 21 kit quote(runs like an appliance)ill take that,i run 45 super for hunting missouri,i use a 21sf-buffer tech buffer,noname guid rod w/24lb spring and stock length stainless n/m barrel,if i ever go w/rowland i would feel safe doing it w/rowlands 21ported kit,it would be nice to have a 44 magnum glock in the woods-:wavey:
     
  19. vaquero aleman

    vaquero aleman "ah-lay-mahn"

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    My intentions are to get another G21, an aftermarket slide with threaded barrel, a Yankee Hill Machine Co. three port stainless compensator and use the Sprinco that I already have to go at it again.

    And after thinking about it, the last .460 ammo I shot was Underwood, and we all know that he always exceeds our expectations. When Underwood first listed the 185gr @ 1500fps he shortly there after made a statement on Facebook that he had to raise the velocity rating on that round because he was getting consistently higher velocities than 1500fps.

    Of course, now I have something else to worry about other than how I go about putting a .460 Rowland together. I don't know when I will see any more ammo available, which is pushing me closer to rolling my own. I can always buy 45 Win Mag brass and cut it down to .460 Rowland length. The 45 Win Mag is pushing a 230 grain bullet to 1600 fps.
     
  20. G26S239

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    Glock really did you right. Congrats. :wavey: