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Friends Don’t Let Friends Buy XD’s!

Discussion in 'Gunsmithing' started by Michigun, Feb 9, 2011.

  1. Michigun

    Michigun Miss Michigan?

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    So I show up to my local FFL shop yesterday to find one of the employees (a friend of mine) with a little problem with his XD 45... a few nights before while he was putting his XD 45 away for the night he noticed his grip safety was depressed & that it would only pop back out after pulling it up/out with a knife tip... but once depressed again it would stay there... no spring-back pressure at all!

    Upon disassembly we found this with the grip safety’s spring... clickable thumbnails:

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    Luckily he had a “Springfield XD Repair Kit” already which included a grip safety spring... it took about a hour or so (I had to make a few ‘blind pins’ for it.) to get everything back together again (i.e., no GLOCK!), but it’s working fine now.

    Okay now, so even though I’m no XD fan (cause they don’t fit me very well) I still have to say that even with this failure the gun WAS NOT rendered un-operational at all... I also think that the XD is still a fine weapon & that this kind of failure is probably fairly rare.
     
    Last edited: Feb 10, 2011

  2. dansub40

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    +1. XD's are great guns.
     
  3. ftw13

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    the XDs grip safety is entirely unnecessary and if that had happened at the worst time it would have got him killed......might have been a big deal then eh?
     
  4. Bello

    Bello America/Italia

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    its sad i went glock and my lil bro went sa xd sigh... poor kid
     
  5. Michigun

    Michigun Miss Michigan?

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    I am calm... maybe you missed the following part of my original post:

    AND I'm especially calm because it was not my SD gun that had a failure... :whistling:

    (FYI, the only thing that even got me a little bit ‘fired up’ about this XD failure was the fact that it wasn’t very easy at all to work on... but then again the GLOCK has spoiled me in this area...)
     
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  6. anyplainjoe

    anyplainjoe Nobody special.

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    Springs break on guns all the time. Heck, even the spring which holds the takedown bar up in Glocks has been know to break.
     
  7. Leigh

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    OP stated grip safety stayed fully depressed (weapon operable).
    Appears the weapon would not be out of the fight.
     
  8. G26S239

    G26S239 NRA Patron

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    How would it get him killed? The gun was still operable, it just lacked a passive safety.
     
  9. G19ftw

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    At least it didn't render the weapon useless, then I would see a big problem.
     
  10. WHEC724

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    Michigun,

    Granted, some of these replies are unnecessarily rude. However, I agree in that I don't think it's fair to take an instance of a single part failure to paint an entire product line as 'bad'. The XD's have generally proven to be good firearms.

    Now maybe there is a piece of relevance here; Any engineer knows that anything mechanical can and will fail. The more moving parts, the greater the likelyhood of failing. That's why I own Glocks instead of XD's. The grip safety just seemed like something to more likely go wrong than save me from an AD.

    Thanks for the post.
     
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  11. Michigun

    Michigun Miss Michigan?

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    Just want to say that my original post was not meant to be a 'troll post'... nor do I see where it would even fit in along those lines. (Well... besides maybe the title, but it was more of a joke.)

    This XD is fairly new... however, you are correct... this is why you try & keep as many out of a design as possible... and the XD does have several (10) springs...

    Well... it was a good thing that when this spring busted that a piece didn’t end up wedged somewhere important & stop-up the weapon that way...

    ... which is why I included that last paragraph in my original post. ;)

    Well said & I agree 100%... but will say that if the XD had fit me better then the GLOCK (or any other gun) that the grip safety wouldn’t be a huge deal to me.
     
    Last edited: Feb 11, 2011
  12. Looks like it was improper heat treating on the spring to relieve stress. Happens with every manufacturer.
     
  13. Nakanokalronin

    Nakanokalronin JMB & MTK

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    How is the grip safety that is preventing a sear from camming down on a single action gun unnecessary?

    http://www.viddler.com/explore/Bareideru/videos/1/
     
  14. Michigun

    Michigun Miss Michigan?

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    Agreed that the grip safety was not just added to the HS2000/XD just because...
     
  15. IndyGunFreak

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    Exactly.

    I fail to see how this is such a big deal, crap happens to all guns.
     
  16. Michigun

    Michigun Miss Michigan?

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    What's up IndyGunFreak?

    Yeah... my OP was meant to be just a report... but it would seem that its title 'ruffled a few feathers'... (FYI, the title was actually intended for the owner of this XD that I fixed... I actually expected him to find this post by now & chime in... the title was even thought up by him/the owner! ;) )
     
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  17. maverick9614

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    Sorry, couldn't resist.

    You said the gun is new, right? That is why you throw a couple hundred rounds down range before carrying it, just to work kinks like this out.

    Also, I will agree that the Glock is much easier to work on than the XD. Try pulling the extractor out of each and tell which took more tools and time.

    The XD is a good gun, but the design of the Glock is better IMHO.
     
    Last edited: Feb 13, 2011
  18. Michigun

    Michigun Miss Michigan?

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    I actually said this XD was 'newer'... only has 2,000 ~ 3,000 rounds through it... still pretty new IMO.
     
  19. minkis18

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    Proof that even a good gun can break. nothing more.