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Form 4 processing time?

Discussion in 'Free Fire Zone' started by wct097, Jan 7, 2011.


  1. wct097

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    Well, my Form 4 for my YHM Mite is in the mail. Any bets on when I'll get it back?
     

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  2. r2kba

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    Relax

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    90 to 180 days
     

  3. 8th SPS USAF

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    I got a form 4 back in about 45 days Form 1 55 days and now I have

    a Mite in also been about 5 weeks and waiting. I would say 60 days to

    180 days. Summer is worst time IMO due to vac's.

    8th
     
  4. Fireman1291

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    My last two Form4's were with Santamaria and they were 38 and 48 days. The 48 day one just got in today. I get to take my Tirant9 home tomorrow!

    Your wait will vary depending on your examiner. I wait 30days after I mail the check to call about the status. It will usually just had gone pending and you can ask your examiners name and figure a timeline. I call every 30days after to make sure its going smoothly. No need to wait 90 days to call just to find out it had an error and wasnt mailed back to correct. Now you just wasted 3 months. Or its been in your dealer mail pile for a month. It happens all the time.

    Calling to check status will NOT slow down the examiners. When you call the NFA branch youll talk to one of three call takers, this is thier job. When they pickup, be poilte and tell them you want to check the status of your Form4/1, etc. Then tell them the serial number. They will ask your name and then tell you if and when its gone pending (assigned an examiner), then you can ask them who the examiner is. Repeat every 30days or untill your stamp comes back from the dealer.


    More info:

    Your examiner is selected based on the transfering dealers initials (Or yours is its a FORM1). Then once an examiner is selected for your form its put in a pile based on when your check was cashed using the roman calendar. Once the examiner actually gets your form in hand it only takes a matter of minutes to approve and mail out.
     
    #4 Fireman1291, Jan 10, 2011
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  5. 8th SPS USAF

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    Fireman,
    Thanks do you have a number handy?

    8th
     
  6. Fireman1291

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    Here you go brother..

    ATF NFA Branch
    1-304-616-4500

    Thank you for your service to our country.
     
  7. 8th SPS USAF

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    Fireman,
    Thank you

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  8. hatidua

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    All of mine in the past 24 months have taken just about exactly 90 days, regardless of what the item was (can/sbr/etc).
     
  9. John@JCDLESales

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    Most of my Can 4's under 45 days. Had a 3 from M3 LTD a month back in 8 days with the suppressor to my door.
     
  10. Fireman1291

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    Seems your dealer is cursed with a SLOW examiner. This same problem forced me to switch dealers after i waited 190 days for one. With my new dealer ive never waited over 55 days.
     
  11. GySgt D

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    Just to give you an idea of how long you might be waiting, here's a spreadsheet I populated with NFA examiner Sandra Snook's reported (by various sources) "Pending to Approved" times--

    Updated from various sources on 20 Jan 2011.

    Pending/Approved/Examiner/Days Pending
    10/21/2010 01/12/2011 Sandra Snook 83
    10/15/2010 01/04/2011 Sandra Snook 81
    09/30/2010 12/20/2010 Sandra Snook 81
    09/30/2010 12/13/2010 Sandra Snook 74
    09/30/2010 12/20/2010 Sandra Snook 81
    09/20/2010 10/15/2010 Sandra Snook 25
    09/17/2010 11/15/2010 Sandra Snook 59
    09/10/2010 11/15/2010 Sandra Snook 66
    09/07/2010 11/03/2010 Sandra Snook 57
    09/02/2010 11/17/2010 Sandra Snook 76
    08/23/2010 11/10/2010 Sandra Snook 79
    08/03/2010 10/26/2010 Sandra Snook 84
    07/22/2010 10/08/2010 Sandra Snook 78
    08/03/2010 10/26/2010 Sandra Snook 84
    07/17/2010 09/30/2010 Sandra Snook 75
    07/16/2010 10/11/2010 Sandra Snook 87
    07/14/2010 10/08/2010 Sandra Snook 86
    07/12/2010 10/26/2010 Sandra Snook 106
    07/12/2010 10/01/2010 Sandra Snook 81
    07/02/2010 10/05/2010 Sandra Snook 95
    06/30/2010 09/20/2010 Sandra Snook 82
    06/29/2010 09/29/2010 Sandra Snook 92
    06/18/2010 09/22/2010 Sandra Snook 96
    06/18/2010 09/22/2010 Sandra Snook 96
    06/03/2010 09/13/2010 Sandra Snook 102
    05/20/2010 09/01/2010 Sandra Snook 104
    05/13/2010 08/24/2010 Sandra Snook 103
    05/13/2010 08/24/2010 Sandra Snook 103
    05/11/2010 08/28/2010 Sandra Snook 109
    05/03/2010 08/19/2010 Sandra Snook 108
    04/16/2010 07/19/2010 Sandra Snook 94
    04/15/2010 07/19/2010 Sandra Snook 95
    04/15/2010 08/06/2010 Sandra Snook 113
    04/09/2010 08/04/2010 Sandra Snook 117
    03/31/2010 06/11/2010 Sandra Snook 72
    01/08/2010 02/26/2010 Sandra Snook 49
    01/08/2010 02/26/2010 Sandra Snook 49
    12/10/2009 01/19/2010 Sandra Snook 40
    11/06/2009 01/13/2010 Sandra Snook 68
    10/15/2009 01/08/2010 Sandra Snook 85
    08/04/2009 11/17/2009 Sandra Snook 105
    08/04/2009 12/09/2009 Sandra Snook 127
    06/16/2009 09/11/2009 Sandra Snook 87
    04/07/2009 05/21/2009 Sandra Snook 44
    04/01/2009 05/19/2009 Sandra Snook 48
    03/05/2009 04/06/2009 Sandra Snook 32

    In summary, from the information available, her approval times:
    -Average days "Pending"; August 2010 to present: 72 days
    -Median days "Pending"; August 2010 to present: 78 days

    I took care to omit any entries with excessive days pending (normally caused by faulty submissions), as well as omitting one or two entries with very short processing times (somebody got hooked up!).

    <------currently 78 days pending; 99 days since submission; 114 days since purchase
     
    #11 GySgt D, Jan 17, 2011
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  12. 8th SPS USAF

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    Just heard that my Title 2 dealer that I paid and been waiting for my Mite to
    come back from ATFE is rumored to be closing up end of this month. I have
    7 weeks in on my F4. I called and no reply yet. I will call again Wed. Hope
    he keeps his lic and I can get my Mite from him. I had a terrible first F4.
    I paid the dealer for a M1 Thompson-transferable- $600 waited almost
    a year for all his BS . Saw the seller's info on his desk and called the seller.
    Found out he bounched 2 checks. I had to call ATF and had it transfered
    to Great Title 2 dealer in another city. Also found out my first guy did not
    have enough money to pay for his new NFA lic. Back then only $200.
     
  13. Fireman1291

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    My two most recent transfers...

    1. NFA Item: SBR build
    2. Form Type: Form 1
    3. Transferee Type: Trust
    4. Form 1 Sent: Nov 10, 2010
    5. Forms Rcvd by ATF: Nov 15, 2010
    6. Check Cashed: Nov 23, 2010
    7. Pending Date: Dec 10, 2010
    8. Approved Date: Jan 12, 2011
    9. Form 1 Received: Jan 18, 2011
    10. Examiner Name: A. Lamberger
    (69 days mailbox to mailbox)


    1. NFA Item: AAC Tirant 9mm
    2. Form Type: Form 4
    3. Transferee Type: Trust
    4. Form 1 Sent: Nov 23, 2010
    5. Forms Rcvd by ATF: Nov 27, 2010
    6. Check Cashed: Nov 30, 2010
    7. Pending Date: Dec 23, 2010
    8. Approved Date: Jan 5, 2010
    9. Form 4 Received: Jan 10, 2011
    10. Examiner Name: S. Santamaria
    (48 days mailbox to mailbox)