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Force Recon

Discussion in 'The US Marine Corps Forum' started by MarineCorp5811, Jan 2, 2007.

  1. I was wondering if it would be at least possible to start off as Infantry go for 2 or more years (needed for Force Recon) then go to be an MP, then try for Force Recon if i stay in longer?
     
  2. RM

    RM Millennium Member

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    A Lat move once you are a 0321 is pretty much not going to happen. Right now there is an extreme shortage of 0321s in the FMF.

    You could go in as a MP and take the indoc, but since 58xx OCC field is always short and guys are getting blown up in it in Iraq all the time, the monitor will not allow a lat move into 03 field. Pretty much if you go into the 58xx field you will stay in the field as either an MP or corrections specialist.
     


  3. Basically its one way or another. just either stay in the 03 or 58?
     
  4. RM

    RM Millennium Member

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    03s can normally move out of the OCC field because it is a rather large one, however Lat moves are harder to get done than most recruiters make them out to be. However, having said that becoming a 0321 very hard, and very few make it through the pipeline. Because of this once one is a 0321 chances are he will stay in that MOS for a long time, right now they are exempted from the B billets because of the shortage.
     
  5. RM

    RM Millennium Member

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    MOS's off the category B list. Normally this is recruiting, DI, MSG, MCSF but can be several other Non-MOS tour. For enlisted Marines it is normally required for promotion to GySgt. Officers on the other hand if they are combat arms will do one after their 2-3 year in the FMF and than between ever FMF tour, with those of the rank of major or higher normally doing 2 back to back B billets prior to going back to the FMF.
     
  6. Thank you very much, you gave me some more stuff to think about.
     
  7. inkslut

    inkslut NRA Member

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    wow, when I was going through MCT back in 1990 they were pulling students in our class who wanted to try out for Recon. How times have changed.
     
  8. RM

    RM Millennium Member

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    They still do, they also have a recon contract that gives an 03 a shot at the indoc at SOI. However, there it is a long way from taking the indoc to getting the 0321 MOS. As of last year their was something like a 75 percent failure rate at BRC/ARS, that doesn't count the majority of people who either fail the indoc or don't make it through RMAT to even go to BRC/ARS.
     
  9. devildog2067

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    I went to boot camp with two guys that went in guaranteed contract 0321's because--get this--they were from Hawaii, they were reservists, and the only FMFR unit in Hawaii at the time (1999) was a Recon company.

    I know for a fact one of them busted out of BRC, I don't know what happened to him.
     
  10. digitspaw

    digitspaw RIP 08/95~09/09

    I'll go you one better. After I finished basic, I went to radio telegraph operator school and then my first assisnment was with 5th Battalion Recon at Pendleton. I was a 2533 MOS.
    About 3 months into that, the Battalion absorded 5th Force Recon and guess what? We all became 5th Force. Jeezus. All I remember was PT, PT, PT forever. The training was fantastic for the day, but NOTHING compared to what you guys get now.

    For me, I got to attend jump school at Ft Benning, Ranger School at Benning, SCUBA school at Amphib Base in Coronado, and POW school at Barbers Point in Hawaii.

    Worked a lot of amphibious insertion drills and lockouts from Navy subs.

    I was a scout swimmer as well.


    Too bad we didn't have the modern Comm gear you guys have now.

    Humping a PRC 41 or 47 was freakin' murder. Even the PRC25 was a PITA.


    I served from Dec 1968 through Dec 1972.

    5th Bat Recon, 5th Force Recon, 1st ANGLICO.




    Semper Fi


    Paw:wavey:
     
  11. Ignition

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    yup us Comm guys at school are given a chance and indocs if you want to try it.


    few of my Data geek friends got sent out to okinawa with 3rd recon straight outta school.


    PT PT every day and they have alpha inspections every other friday

    lol
     
  12. Chief301

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    The process has changed several times over the years but I agree that it's gonna be one or the other regarding MP vs Force Recon and their is an extremely high wash out rate during indoc. If you wash out it's back to the grunts.
     
  13. I think ive decided to go MP since it will help me out in my future career of Law Enforcement, this way i get the experience and knowledge even before i take the state police academy. MP would also help me become a Marshall if i do choose to go higher than county.
     
  14. Ignition

    Ignition Insanityville

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    some police dept. dont like MP's as much because their style of force training and training in the civilian sector are two different things and once you teach a dog how to do a trick, its hard for em to relearn it a new way.


    but still good on ya, now earn the title before anything else
     
  15. Ignition

    Ignition Insanityville

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    dont say sir, i work for a living
     
  16. devildog2067

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    I have also heard that many departments find MP training undesirable, but I'm not a cop.
     
  17. Yamadad

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    True , but that's softening up due to the influx from guy who were in the sandbox.