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Follow-up to 20 ga home defense

Discussion in 'Tactical Shotguns' started by Providence, Oct 7, 2011.

  1. Providence

    Providence

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    I posted a question a couple of weeks ago: http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1371214

    I have since had the opportunity to shoot an 870 and Mossberg 590, both in 12 ga. I see what you guys mean about the two guns being similar... and different. I loved them both! And I learned something.

    I need a shorter stock for my wife. so... If I buy a Moss 500 in 20 ga, what are my options for a shorter stock? I looked on Midway's website, but I couldn't find anything. Plus it's going to add to the price of the gun.

    I did see this: http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/2MS50485-1.html I used the CTD website because it's easier to see what I'm talking about. What about this? Anything else to consider?
     
  2. ssgrock3

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    the remy 870 youth gun in .20 ga, comes with the shorter youth stock and a 21" barrel, so unless you just want an 18" gun, the shotty is ready to go as is. shorter stock makes for a handy HD gun all around.
     


  3. Providence

    Providence

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    I think the shorter barrel would be helpful. I live in an old house and the stairway is tight. My other shotguns are longer, and I can't see any way I could move around the house with them... not that I'm all that interested in clearing my house!
     
  4. aippi

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    The Remington 20ga Jr comes with a youth stock that has adjustable spacers so you can make it shorter or full lenght.
     
  5. Vanman2004b

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    The Youth 20 Ga is very much under rated for HD. You can find them on sale frequently or used at a good price. The used ones are usually used very little. I just bought a used one in 3 inch Magnum for $240 out the door.
     
  6. cyphertext

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    I just put my Remington 870 12 gauge with an 18 1/2" barrel side by side to my son's Mossberg Bantam 500c 20 gauge and the Mossberg is only about an inch longer over all.

    His Mossberg has a wood stock, without spacers, and has a thick limb saver recoil pad on it as well. It has a 13" length of pull and a 22" vent rib barrel.

    http://www.mossberg.com/products/default.asp?id=22&display=specs
    model #54132
     
  7. cyphertext

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    CTD has the one my son has.
    http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/2MS54132-1.html

    Besides the spacers in the stock, you also give up 2 rounds if you go with that mini super bantam you linked. It is a compact gun, and weighs 1 1/2 lbs less than the one I linked as well. With a gun that light, you will have more felt recoil. I don't know how recoil sensitive your wife is.
     
  8. I bought this one for my son to shoot about 6 years ago:

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    20 ga youth gun, 20" barrel, 12" LOP. It's about the same length overall as my 12 ga 500 with an 18.5" barrel.

    Loaded with #3 buck shot it would make a fine home defense gun.
     
  9. Buckeye 7x57

    Buckeye 7x57

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    My son and his girlfriend moved into an apartment to put them closer to OSU. While trying to figure out a home defense gun for him, I found the perfect answer no further away than my gun safe. The gun my son hunted with as a young lad. A youth 870 20 gauge with a 21" vent rib barrel. Loaded with Federal premium #4 buck, I think it will more than suffice.

    Ron
     
  10. ssgrock3

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    Same combo we used when we first got married. That #4 buck has 27 pellets and little to no recoil.
     
  11. Providence

    Providence

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    Good to know!
     
  12. Providence

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    To everyone, thank you for all the help and advice. This afternoon, we looked at and bought the Mossberg 510 Mini Super Bantam in 20 ga. We'll try it out on Thursday evening. Can't wait!

    [​IMG]
     
  13. cyphertext

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    Waiting for a range report. Curious if that gun has quite a bit of recoil due to the weight. How does it shoot?
     
  14. Bob Hafler

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    I bought a 20 ga. Mossberg crusier many years ago. It had a pistol grip on it (worthless) I removed it and put a rifle stock pistol grip combo on it. I shoot #3 buck out of it for HD. Mossberg makes some pretty nice inexpensive pump SG's for HD.
     
  15. Z71bill

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    I would try some of these.

    Federal Premium Personal Defense Ammunition 20 Gauge 2-3/4" Reduced Recoil #4 Shot 24 Pellets Box of 5

    My wife doesn't like recoil - these are the lightest shooting 20 gauge buck shot I have found.

    http://www.midwayusa.com/product/95...llets-box-of-5?cm_cat=Cart&cm_pla=ProductDesc

    For practice these are sweet - light recoil -

    http://www.midwayusa.com/product/99...on-20-gauge-2-3-4-3-4-oz-7-1-2-shot-box-of-25
     
  16. Providence

    Providence

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    Again, many thanks for all the advice.
    Finally got to the range today, and I'm sad to report that there is a "kick." The range requires slugs, so I was shooting high brass. I know that is a consideration, but it is cause for concern. In fact, I think it kicked more that a Moss 500 and Rem 870 shooting slugs. So I'm not feeling like I made the best move. My wife didn't go with me, and I'm glad for that. I hoping I'll be able to come up with some solutions.

    If we travel to an outside range, we can use low recoil ammo. I'm going to use the low recoil for home defense any way.

    The stock is a little short, so I'm wondering about a recoil pad. Any advice there?
     
  17. ssgrock3

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    those slugs are gonna be harder kicking that most anything. #4 buckshot doesn't seem to be so bad in a youth 870 express in 20ga.
     
  18. ThreadKiller

    ThreadKiller Socialism Sucks

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    870 Youth 20 gauge works here at home. Of course, an AR is nearby as well.