I would be very interested in this also So here is what I have come up with so far. Flat top upper no handle Full length quad rail- may as well just get it and not have to worry vertical foregrip- it just feels better and more natural for me Optics- I am still not sure on the RDS or Holo or scope, for my distances ( most under 100, all under 300) what would be a good idea and my best bet within my budget. Also a magnifier for a RDS I have never seen one, could I get a run down on those from some experienced users. Now leaning more to 300 Black since 1 Sounds like would be more condusive to cast which is what I will have to shoot 90% of the time to afford as much ammo as I want. 2, Something different and more interesting. 3, I just cannot see a real downside other than ammo costs which are mitigated if I reload. Since this will be a secondary HD weapon after the tried and true 12ga I do need reliability and ease of use. Looking at the shortest barrel I can without running afoul of that wonderful gestapo like agency the ATF which is if I am not mistaken 14.5 with permanently attached muzzle brake? With all this and the budget I have am I doomed to building this myself or does someone out there make what I am looking for? Thanks for all the help here, I do love GT. Rich Wanna kill these ads? We can help!