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Firefighters shot while battling New York blaze

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by Restless28, Dec 24, 2012.

  1. humanguerrilla

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    Another criminal not affected by gun laws especially when they want to commit murder suicide. I hope that first responders have the free time to jump through the NY hoops to arm and defend themselves and our prayers are with them.
     
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  2. HOTHEAD

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    Prayers for all involved..
     

  3. Gallium

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    No 1st responder agency (volunteer or paid FF/EMS) is going to allow their 1st responders to be armed, on record. Some (two I know of) agencies here specifically and explicit state rescue/emergency personnel cannot be armedwith firearms.

    My heart goes out to those families of the deceased and injured. What a sh**ty Christmas they have been saddled with, for the rest of their lives. :sad:
     
  4. Cavalry Doc

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    The thought process is that liberals think if paramedics have guns, criminals will want to use them to confront them.

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    Because we all know that police, fire, and rescue being armed is what makes bad guys want to have guns. If no one had them, no one would want them>
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    Liberal mentality will be to call for gun confiscations, which Gov. Cuomo has already done very recently.


    http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1459616


    Heartfelt best wishes for the families of those killed, and to those injured. It seems as if people are out there trying to come up with the most heinous crimes imaginable, and unfortunately, they are doing a good job of causing mass misery.
     
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  5. Averageman

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    I would be happy volunteer to ride shotgun for my local F.D.
    They are a cool bunch and have a great weight room.

    I am curious how someone who beats a 92 year old Woman to death gets pled down to manslaughter? Perhaps we should look in to the how's and why's of why this scumbag shouldn't have taken a ride on ol' sparky?
     
  6. fireguy129

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    Did they identify what type of rifle he used yet?
     
  7. G31

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    Fox says Bushmster .223. Again.
     
  8. THEPOPE

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    Let us review.....

    Guy kills his granny with a HAMMER, gets convicted...

    Fast forward to the other day....

    He kills AGAIN, because the FIRST time they didn't take him out back and 'ear-lead' him...

    leaving him free to do the same damned thing again, no follow-up mental evals....put him on meds that are known to cause violent behaviour and suicidal tendencies...

    Sounds like a 'mental-health ' issue, AGAIN....

    " ....BUT THE HANG-MAN ISN'T HANGIN'...."

    " GO BACK, JACK, DO IT AGAIN...WHEELS TURNIN' 'ROUND AND 'ROUND..."


    uH HUH.....I AM OUT......:crying:
     
  9. HOTHEAD

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    Im local, 3pm press release states,

    S&W 38
    Mossberg 500
    .223 rifle with 4 30 round mags. 1 of which was empty, 3 still loaded.


    His sisters remains were found in burned house remains.He had a 3 page letter on him when his body was discovered. It outlined his plan, and local PD is reporting one quote "I'm going to see how much of the neighborhood I can burn down, and start doing what I do best..killing people.

    He took cover on a burm across the street and waited for responders.They were all shot in the back.
     
  10. KennyFSU

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    The justice system has failed again.


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  11. Resqu2

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    Weeeeell you may be wrong on this one statement, our Vol. Dept has several that carry on a regular basis, I usually respond to the scene in POV and if not in turnout gear I'm usually open carrying :supergrin: I am in rural VA and guns are just part of our area. I do usually lock it up in my vehicle if its an active house fire.

    In our area most all CCW classes are held at FD's and the FF's gets the class for free :supergrin: Did I mention how great VA is :wavey:
     
  12. fireguy129

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    Unreal, they are going to have an absolute field day with that. The only mitigating issue, if there is one, is he was clearly prohibited from possessing the rifle.
     
  13. KommieforniaGlocker

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    I have met alot of New Yorkers, it is my opinion

    New Yorkers do not deserve Fire Fighters
     
  14. HexHead

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    Wait until the confiscations start.
     
  15. Um, ok.
     
  16. HOTHEAD

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    Right

    Most of us "upstaters" are the lowest form of life on earth..:faint:
     
  17. That comment will be remembered.
     
  18. janice6

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    What terrible news expecially on Christmas day. All the talk is of love your fellow man and forgiveness, and you get some piece of trash to prove that there are "kinks" in the DNA.

    I know of no worse news for the families than their loved ones, on a selfless call to help others, have been killed. Words are not enough.

    Bless them all and please don't let this convict all humanity.

    RIP
     
  19. KommieforniaGlocker

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  20. KommieforniaGlocker

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    My apologies I should have been more specific, New Yorkers from New York City, the people who brought us the bystander effect, or "Genovese Syndrome."

    Those don't deserve Fire Fighters, Police officers, or any type of first responders. You would have though experience such a tragic event 9/11 would have made them more "humane" or care for their fellow man, not a chance. That being said most won't lift a finger, to dial 9-1-1 for some one, so why should they be allotted such services.