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Federal .40 180gr at Walmart

Discussion in 'Caliber Corner' started by berfles, Jan 29, 2012.


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  1. berfles

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    I just saw Federal .40 180gr at Walmart for about $25, said it was on some kind of sale. I didn't get any but I'm thinking I should now, if I plan on carrying 180gr for self defense should I be shooting it at the range to be used to it or won't it make that much difference? This is just for target shooting in my gen 4 G23. How does it compare to the WWB I've been buying quality wise? Here's a post I found on Slickdeals about it:

    http://slickdeals.net/f/3831782-Federal-40cal-S-W-ammo-Walmart-100pack-25-96-9mm100pack-19-96
     

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    It's all I shoot in my 22 and 27. I use GD in 180 and it is very comparable in recoil and feel. I buy a box a week from Wally.
     

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    The Federal Champion is good to go. I have at least 1000 rounds of it through my M&P and it is fine ammo at a good price.

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    I guess for target shooting it just matters what is cheapest. If there isn't a ton of difference between the two loads I'll see how the Federal performs, I just thought maybe I should switch full time to 180gr since I'll be using it in self defense rounds. If there's not a ton of difference maybe it doesn't matter so much. Worth to ry just to see how I shoot it compared to the lighter rounds I guess.


    I just realized I made a reply to a thread here last night and thought I clicked New Thread, so I kind of repeated my question elsewhere. NG VI replied there with this:

    WWB says muzzle velocity of 1060fps, so I guess it's the reduced recoil variety.
     
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    Out of my EMP 40 which has a 3'' barrel, some chrono results (average for at least 5 shots):
    Remington 180 JHP @ 935 fps / 350# KE
    Federal 180 JHP @ 944 fps / 356# KE
    Winchester 180 JHP @ 952 fps / 362# KE
    Winchester Ranger T 165 @ 1,054 fps / 407# KE
    Hornady Zombie Max 165 @ 1,078 fps / 426# KE
     
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    Well, looks like I'll find out how it is :)

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    The old standard "FBI load" was a 180gr at about 980 fps. Its still fairly common, it is effective, and easy to shoot.
    The load you are talking about at 1060 is a mid velocity 180gr load.
     
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    Its all I use, and I buy it in one hundred rd boxes. I dont think On Line has a cheaper price with shipping added. Since I carry 180 gr Bonded JHP, it just makes sense.
     
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    I have had no issues with federal in 9mm. It is a lot better quality wise than wwb
     
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    This is the best deal on .40 target ammo IMO. My Glock and CZ gets a steady diet of the Federal.
     
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    I've fired several thousand rounds of WWB and Fed. Champ. .40 S&W ammo in a Glock 22RTF. I prefer the Fed. Champ. The WWB works fine. But I prefer the Fed.
     
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    Any specific reasons why you prefer it? I haven't gotten to shoot since I bought it, but the only thing I notice is the casings are routinely un-tarnished unlike WWB, not that that should matter any. There is also a prominent "lip" on the casing, whereas the WWB seems to be folded in a bit more and the bullet itself is shaped a little different. Again, probably won't have an effect.

    I took these two pictures just for the heck of it:

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    Federal is on the left, WWB is on the right.
     
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    The WWB on the right has more crimp on it. (looks like too much crimp to me)

    In my Experience WWB has poor quality. Last two boxes of .357sig I bought had a crushed round and undersized (.353") bullets. It goes for $33 a box 50 now in most places so for that price it should be perfect. I really do not buy much Federal but I'm going to pick upsome of that .40 Federal in the 100rd boxes to try. I'm done with WWB.
     
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    What effect can too much crimping have?
     
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    Too much crimp can actually squish the bullet and cause it to be undersize. Undersized bullets can cause accuracy to suck big time.

    I set my dies up to crimp just enough to take the flare out and put a light ring around the bullet that you can see by pulling the bullet. Most reloaders set up this way. Of course I'm referring to a taper crimp without a cannalure on the bullet, like FMJ .40 rounds are. A tapper crimp is used primarily to take the flare out of the case. The flare is used to taper the case mouth so the bullet can be seated easier without shaving the bullet.
     
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