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  1. whoflungdo

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    so a hate group attacked a hate group:whistling:
     
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    This stuff is only going to get crazier as we get closer to the election...
     
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    I don't think it is just the election, the political climate in this country has gotten more and more polarized in the 8 years that I have been old enough to vote. It seems to be nearing a boiling point.
     
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    I'm very interested in learning about this shooter, who news reports say posed as a deliveryman and carrying a Chik-fil-A bag.

    We already know that the Radical Left mainstream media immediately blames conservative commentators as "merchants of hate" who goad deranged people into mass murder so if today's DC shooter turns out to be motivated by Rad hate I expect the same M/M to file slipshod reports and quickly move this story off the front page, never to be seen again.

    The Southern Poverty Law Center branded the Family Research Council a "terrorist" group because it opposes "gay marriage". Welcome to the brave new neo-Stalinist world of the Radical Left/Marxist/Media world where honest opposition to the Rad agenda is viciously demonized and any disagreement with the Obama Administration's policies are labeled "racist".

    Yes, I'm curious to see a lot of information about this shooter and how the mainstream media handles the story compared to how they handled the Gabby Giffords tragedy.
     
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    $10 says the shooter was part of the OWS crowd. :whistling:
     
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    So was the shooter pro-choice or pro-gay? Or both?
     
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    Thank heavens I've already got mine.
     
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    FRC does not appear hateful to me. Can you direct me to any thing on their site that espouses hate?
     
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    http://www.splcenter.org/get-inform...browse-all-issues/2010/winter/the-hard-liners

    *Family Research Council
    Washington, D.C.

    Started as a small think tank in 1983, the Family Research Council (FRC) merged in 1988 with the much larger religious-right group Focus on the Family in 1988, and brought on Gary Bauer, former U.S. undersecretary of education under Ronald Reagan, as president. In 1992, the two groups legally separated to protect Focus on the Family’s tax-exempt status, although Focus founder James Dobson and two other Focus officials were placed on the FRC’s newly independent board. By that time, FRC had become a powerful group on its own.

    Headed since 2003 by former Louisiana State Rep. Tony Perkins, the FRC has been a font of anti-gay propaganda throughout its history. It relies on the work of Robert Knight, who also worked at Concerned Women for America but now is at Coral Ridge Ministries (see above for both), along with that of FRC senior research fellows Tim Dailey (hired in 1999) and Peter Sprigg (2001). Both Dailey and Sprigg have pushed false accusations linking gay men to pedophilia: Sprigg has written that most men who engage in same-sex child molestation “identify themselves as homosexual or bisexual,” and Dailey and Sprigg devoted an entire chapter of their 2004 book Getting It Straight to similar material. The men claimed that “homosexuals are overrepresented in child sex offenses” and similarly asserted that “homosexuals are attracted in inordinate numbers to boys.”

    That’s the least of it. In a 1999 publication (Homosexual Activists Work to Normalize Sex With Boys) that has since disappeared from its website, the FRC claimed that “one of the primary goals of the homosexual rights movement is to abolish all age of consent laws and to eventually recognize pedophiles as the ‘prophets’ of a new sexual order,” according to unrefuted research by AMERICAblog. The same publication argued that “homosexual activists publicly disassociate themselves from pedophiles as part of a public relations strategy.” FRC offered no evidence for these remarkable assertions, and has never publicly retracted the allegations. (The American Psychological Association, among others, has concluded that “homosexual men are not more likely to sexually abuse children than heterosexual men are.”)

    In fact, in a Nov. 30, 2010, debate on MSNBC’s “Hardball with Chris Matthews” between Perkins and the Southern Poverty Law Center’s Mark Potok, Perkins defended FRC’s association of gay men with pedophilia, saying: “If you look at the American College of Pediatricians, they say the research is overwhelming that homosexuality poses a danger to children. So Mark is wrong. He needs to go back and do his own research.” In fact, the college, despite its hifalutin name, is a tiny, explicitly religious-right breakaway group from the American Academy of Pediatrics, the 60,000-member association of the profession. Publications of the American College of Pediatricians, which has some 200 members, have been roundly attacked by leading scientific authorities who say they are baseless and accuse the college of distorting and misrepresenting their work.

    Elsewhere, according to AMERICAblog, Knight, while working at the FRC, claimed that “[t]here is a strong current of pedophilia in the homosexual subculture. … [T]hey want to promote a promiscuous society.” AMERICAblog also reported that then-FRC official Yvette Cantu, in an interview published on Americans for Truth About Homosexuality’s website, said, “If they [gays and lesbians] had children, what would happen when they were too busy having their sex parties?”

    More recently, in March 2008, Sprigg, responding to a question about uniting gay partners during the immigration process, said: “I would much prefer to export homosexuals from the United States than to import them.” He later apologized, but then went on, last February, to tell MSNBC host Chris Matthews, “I think there would be a place for criminal sanctions on homosexual behavior.” “So we should outlaw gay behavior?” Matthews asked. “Yes,” Sprigg replied. At around the same time, Sprigg claimed that allowing gay people to serve openly in the military would lead to an increase in gay-on-straight sexual assaults.

    Perkins has his own unusual history. In 1996, while managing the U.S. Senate campaign of Republican State Rep. Louis “Woody” Jenkins of Louisiana, Perkins paid $82,500 to use the mailing list of former Klan chieftain David Duke. The campaign was fined $3,000 (reduced from $82,500) after Perkins and Jenkins filed false disclosure forms in a bid to hide the link to Duke. Five years later, on May 17, 2001, Perkins gave a speech to the Louisiana chapter of the Council of Conservative Citizens (CCC), a white supremacist group that has described black people as a “retrograde species of humanity.” Perkins claimed not to know the group’s ideology at the time, but it had been widely publicized in Louisiana and the nation. In 1999, after Republican Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott was embroiled in a national scandal over his ties to the group, GOP chairman Jim Nicholson urged Republicans to quit the CCC because of its “racist views.” That statement and the nationally publicized Lott controversy came two years before Perkins’ 2001 speech.
     
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    I'm not answering for CK...but the SPLC has deemed them a hate group. That has been parroted by the media and the anti-traditional marriage, anti-chick-fil-a crowd...
     
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    So you can't provide anything in their own words espousing hate? Got it.
     
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    I guess thats ok then As long as you can rationalize a attempted murder with a firearm...
     
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    the WBC claims they don't hate anyone either:whistling:
     
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    Or in their actions. They do not meet the FBI's dedinition of a hate crime. Just an liberal, left leaning, self appointed "watchdog" group..
     
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    I'm not saying its ok but I can understand why it happened.
     
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    and what exactly is the FBI's dedinition that you speak of:rofl:
     
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    LOL..I could tell ya but then I'd have to shoot ya...


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