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failzero bcg users.. got some ??

Discussion in 'Black Rifle Forum' started by SOLIDSNAK3, Jun 27, 2011.

  1. SOLIDSNAK3

    SOLIDSNAK3

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    for those that have used or own the fail bcg,

    which one did you get? they sell an m16 and a Ar16 bcg. can we use the m16 bcg in commercial ar15

    how easy is it to clean?

    any issues or failures?


    thanks!
     
  2. Teecher45

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    Sorry I can't help you, I don't have one, but am interested.
     


  3. mixflip

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    I looked at the FailZero BCG setup and I actually thought to myself...this could be the answer to all the fouling and heat issues that many complain about? I have not tried one but I think if I bought another AR I think I would like to try it with a FailZero BCG & bolt.

    My biggest gripe with my old D.I. was always having to re-add oil to the BCG when the heat that dumps right onto it would dry up the oil. Also I hated cleaning all that caked on fouling deep inside the crevices of the barrel extension/star chamber.

    If FailZero is truly self lubricating and what little carbon that does stick just falls off with a quick squirt of gun scrubber...I'd be very happy!!!! No more excessive oiling and dental picks after a long day shooting.
     
  4. boomhower

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    Worth every penny to me. My BCG has never seen a drop of oil and has never had a failure. Cleaning is very easy. Usually it just wipes right of but if it's really bad a squirt of CLP takes care of the problem. If you already have a good BCG you can send it to WMD and have them coat it. It was started by some ex-FZ employees.
     
  5. SOLIDSNAK3

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    thanks for the input.

    whats the deal with offering an m16 bcg and a ar15 bcg though? example, my colt bcg is a m16 bcg as per colt. would i by an m16 bcg as a repleacement? whats the difference between the 2.

    i feel tempted to pick one up and and write a review on my experiance.
     
  6. boomhower

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    The difference between a FA BCG and semi BCG are very small. The FA has a bit more meat on it, less than 1/10th of an ounce if memory serves. Given the option take the FA but the SA isn't exactly a huge downgrade. With their kits the hammer is different. FA kit has a FA hammer, SA kit SA hammer. I thought they had changed all their BCG to FA but you may want to confirm that.
     
  7. SOLIDSNAK3

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    dumb question time.....

    what is FA and what is SA?
     
  8. boomhower

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    full auto and semi auto
     
  9. RMTactical

    RMTactical www.AR15pro.net CLM

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    I have a Spike NiB BCG, two actually. They are SUPER easy to clean and require no lube. Pretty awesome...
     
  10. Might look into that wmd guns for coating a few other BCGs.
     
  11. Broncovan

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    I have a FA Fail Zero in my 18" middy. I run it suppressed with a Noveske switchblock, and it gets DIRTY! For the most part, the carbon and mess just wipes off and I use very little to no lube on it. For the normally very gunky areas, it doesn't take near as much to get it nice and clean.

    I wish I'd have gone to one much sooner.
     
  12. SOLIDSNAK3

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    is there any difference between the failzero bcg and the spikes bcg?
     
  13. boomhower

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    I believe spikes supplies their own BCG to be coated and FZ uses theirs which are different but very well may come from the same manufacturer, no one knows but them. I have never heard of a FZ BCG fail.
     
  14. jfirecops

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    Fail Zero uses a hard nickel boron coating that is difficult for carbon to stick to. I had my BCG coated on my 11.5" BCM and it runs like a dream. I use high temp grease to lube and at the end of the day, most of the carbon just wipes off, and this was after a high round class.
     
  15. poodleshooter1

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    I heard soacking the BCG in zmax for a day or so accomplishes the same level of reliability?

    In any case, I just lube mine before shooting and have no problems. Heck, I don't even clean it. Just keeping it well lubed and relube once in a while.

    The couple of times I have cleaned it, it literally just wiped clean. I really don't understand why some people complain the AR-15 platform is unreliable, requires heavy maintenance, or is hard to clean.
     
    Last edited: Jul 30, 2011
  16. boomhower

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    1. No, it won't.
    2. Your right, it's not rocket science. Keep the gun well lubed and it will run a long long time between cleaning.
    3. People are lazy and think they can run these things dry and dirty like a Glock. Just squirting some lube in the ejection port will cure most problems these folks run into.
     
  17. mjkeat

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    I ran a FZ BCG and liked it. I have something similar in my LWRC and it has ran great.