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Discussion in 'Survival/Preparedness Forum' started by agamemnon, Jul 31, 2012.


  1. agamemnon

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    so i think it is the ucp type that failed badly. anyway, i am wondering if anyone has seen these come up for sale? ya i get it, it is not effective camo. but i just would like something and hopefully cheap. i would think these would be a dime a dozen....
    something to go camping/hiking/work on the truck.
    thanks for any help.
     

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  2. Paul53

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    Army only spent $5 Billion on them. I'm sure they'll be in the Dollar Store soon.
     

  3. Texas357

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  4. RedHaze

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  5. GlockPride

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    Do 'Camo' uniforms really, really, play that much of an effective role in combat? I mean once you open with the ma deuce, artillery and CAS doesn't the enemy know you're there?

    Maybe I missed something. I'm not saying go in with hi-viz like construction uniforms, but does one pattern solve the problem better than another?
     
  6. wjv

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    Dang. . I can barely see the two other soldiers sitting on that couch!!!
     
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  7. RWBlue

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    Depending on the uniform.....

    The fact that I know you are there doesn't really mean I can get a good hit.

    Good camo really does help.
     
  8. RedHaze

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    The boots on the ground RARELY get to open with the ma deuce, arty, or CAS. They get to open with an M16/M4, a M249, and maybe a Mk12 Mod 0. (DMR rifle)

    Effecctive camo allows you to control who shoots who first, which usually decides who gains fire superiourity first, which usually decides who wins.

    So to sum it all up, camo matters. Big time.

    Some patterns are way more effective than others. :wavey:
     
  9. Sam Spade

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    You tell us. Who do you reckon is going to get shot first, PFC Multicam or SFC UCP?
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    And it onl took the Army 8 years and $5 billion dollars to answer this question?
     
  11. Bilbo Bagins

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    But surely you will not stand out in an urban battlefield:rofl:

    #3 is UCP

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    I think you would be better hidden wearing a Walmart long sleave T-shirt and Jeans then wearing that new Army camo. They should have just bought the rights to use Multicam and saved a few million.
     
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  12. RWBlue

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    If you want to talk about a fail, lets look at the navy camo......epic.
     
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  14. Bren

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    Have to admit, I prefer ACU to what the Navy and Air Force wear. In Afghanistan, the Navy wore ACU's when attached to the Army and the Marine stuff when attached to the Marines - never their own that I saw.
     
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    in the northeastern woods, during winter, gray works. black in summer and light to dark brown in fall.
     
  16. Cavalry Doc

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    It does help a bit. The thing to remember is that movement gives you away, regardless of what pattern you are wearing.

    Think back to the virtually invisible "predator" movie cammo. You could spot even an almost invisible alien, when it moved. Same goes for good cammo.

    You have to consider that no cammo works for every situation, a uniform that would almost perfectly hide you where you are, might not 6 feet to the left of where you are.
     
  17. TKM

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  18. FireForged

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    As a layman and avid TV watcher... I think that the primary point to todays camo in todays fighting arena, is that you dont StanD OuT like a sore thumb in your environment, not that you totally blend in with it. If blending in was so important, they would all wear ghili suits.
     
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  19. cyrsequipment

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    Yea, because a ghillie suit in 115 degree heat, carrying 80lbs of gear is a viable option for the entire force. Camo, like firepower, is a compromise. Some is more compromising than others, but still a compromise.



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  20. Cavalry Doc

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    I'm still trying to figure out what was wrong with woodland camo.

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