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Factory ammo vs. Reloading. I'm beginning to wonder.

Discussion in 'Reloading' started by DoctaGlockta, Aug 28, 2012.


  1. DoctaGlockta

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    Supply is plentiful for pistol ammo these days and prices seem to be lower. Especially for calibers like 9mm (which I don't reload). For a small time reloader (45acp) like myself I almost have to say if I didn't have components sitting around I would be tempted to just buy factory.

    I originally got in to reloading 3 or so years ago because the shelves were literally empty. Not so these days. I have never seen so much supply.

    Now for Rifle I feel different. Supply is plentiful but prices seem to be steep still. I am noticing that surplus rifle such as 308 and 7.62X39 seem to be drying up from my regular suppliers however.

    Any of you feeling the same way?
     

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  2. F106 Fan

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    I like shooting .45 ACP and I particularly like shooting lead bullets (yes, I'm cheap!). Without much effort, I can load lead for about $120/1000 and I haven't seen factory ammo at anywhere near that price. Probably because I haven't seen factory ammo with lead bullets. Sure, there are some commercial reloaders making them but I'm not as comfortable with commercial reloads as I am with real factory ammo.

    But, yes, if I could get factory ammo at a decent price, I would get out of the pistol reloading thing altogether. Reloading is not my hobby, shooting is.

    I do like reloading for rifle and I finally got to use my new Redding T7 yesterday when I loaded a couple of dozen .308s. It worked very well and I like it a lot more than a conventional single stage press.

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  3. fredj338

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    The only thing I would not reload for would be 7.62x39, mostly because cheap bullets & brass are not readily available. I can pick up once fired brass all day at the range in most common calibers. I occassionally buy factory ammo, but conisder I save at least 50% on any caliber, quite a bit more on many, factory ammo has little interest for me.
    If reloading time is the issue, just buy better gear. Better gear takes tha hassle & time component down to near zero. Some times I am making money reloading vs the same hours at work. Consider 700rds/hr on a 650, even in 9mm, that is like making $75/hr gross!
     
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  4. ron59

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    I can reload 9mm for under $11 per 100.
    I'm not seeing prices ANYWHERE near that around here on the shelf, especially not 147gr stuff that's loaded to my specs.

    Reload all the way.
     
  5. Boxerglocker

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    .223 AR ammo I personally save over 50% versus bulk XM193, precision .223 rounds with heavy bullets 40 to 60% over Horandy or Black Hills match. Money isn't everything though, my rounds just shoot better out of my guns.
    9mm I still load for about $90 a K, so there is saving there too. Not if you use that whole time is money enlargement maybe you could justify it. I honestly can't. I spend less time and money at the press loading with my XL650. Probably less that I would searching the internet for good deals daily or driving around spending time and money on gas to go buy it locally.
     
  6. OrGlocker

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    Generally speaking the more you shoot, the more you reload, the more you save.
     
  7. F106 Fan

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    But the savings is a joke! All that really happens is you shoot more for the same money and you're still out the cost of the equipment.

    Because my .45 ACP is about $120/1000, I don't mind if the entire family helps me blow up 1000 on the action pistol range on a fine morning. For the 4 of us, that's about 250 rounds each.

    A thousand store-bought is probably closer to $350 and we sure wouldn't be shooting as many rounds. We would be down to about 80 rounds per person and done in about 15 minutes! Hardly worth the hour long drive! Each way... Uphill, snow, etc.

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  8. sig357fan

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    ain't that the truth!

    plus, when done in bulk on a lousy day, it gives me something to do other than vegitate in front of the TV.

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  9. fredj338

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    No it is a savings, not a joke. What you choose to do with your savings is up to you. Shoot more, buy more stuff, put it in the bank, you are still saving per round. I sued to shoot about 3K/m, now I am down to maybe 1K, my gear was paid for the first year I bought it. So yes, I save quite abit, enough to pay match fees & gas to get there vs shooting factory anything. I shoot 45acp, but 9mm isn't cheap either @ $20/100.
     
  10. Colorado4Wheel

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    Saving about 50% by loading your own, even in 9mm is not small thing. Where can you find 9mm ammo for $11 per hundred. Never mind I pay about $3.50 casting my own.
     
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    I agree the cost per round is lower and there is a savings. But I'd be willing to bet that for most reloaders, the cost of shooting stays about the same. They just shoot more. In fact, I'd also bet that most pistol reloaders got into reloading just so they could shoot more for the same money.

    Now, that's a worthy goal: Shoot more! But the dollars spent on shooting would, in my estimation, stay the same. You can buy more or better equipment, travel to far and distant places and all with the reduced cost of ammo. But the dollars spent remains unchanged.

    Shooting is God's way of telling you that you make too much money.

    Richard
     
  12. F106 Fan

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    Yes, but did your total cost of shooting actually go down? Or did you just shoot more and consume about the same amount of disposable income?

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  13. Colorado4Wheel

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    Busy Playing math games?

    It went down.
     
  14. Zombie Steve

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    Stop buying every expensive hunk of gear you come across from Dillon and you'll break even faster.

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    As I noted, I used to shoot more than 3K/m. Ammo cost more today than back then & I am only shooting 1K/m. So i am not shooting more, but could. Cost of gas actually matters more to me than ammo since I reload all of it. It's just one of those statements that bugs me. Like Liberals calling themselves progressive, not quite true. You save money on every trigger pull, how much you pull the trigger is on you. Some months I shoot more, some less, but I always save money on my reloaded ammo vs factory.
     
  16. dkf

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    For me it is a savings. I can reload 1000 rounds for 1/3 of what factory ammo costs. I am not shooting even close to 2/3rds more rounds than I would if I would be buying all factory ammo. How much one saves is up to the individual. To me being able to tailor loads to suit is huge bonus.
     
  17. PaulMason

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    I used to shoot at an outdoor gun range 120 miles round trip 6 gal x $3 = $18 plus $300 annual fee plus ammo

    Now I go to an indoor range 6 miles away.
     
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    It cost me on average about half of what the shelf ammo is. Only centerfire stuff I buy off the shelf is 7.62x39
     
  19. glock_19guy1983

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    I can reload 38 super and 45acp for less than $4 a box using my own cast bullets. none of my pistols see much factory ammo.
     
  20. brisk21

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    Yeah, Ive saved a ton by reloading .45 ACP. I really enjoy it to. Its almost as fun as shooting. I like stocking up on primers, powder, bullets, and brass. Its fun to go to gun shows and snoop around for good prices on these things.