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Entitlement ......?

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by dango, Oct 14, 2012.

  1. certifiedfunds

    certifiedfunds Tewwowist

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    Its a welfare check. Welfare for the elderly. Social Security and Medicare are bankrupting the nation.

    You're pissed off about being called a freeloader? I'm pissed off about working to pay your welfare. I'm pissed about my kids and grandkids being indebted to pay your welfare.

    If you didn't save enough for your retirement, too bad. I don't know you. I owe you nothing.
     
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  2. dango

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    If so why did I see every check money gone towards SSI.
    They should of left the ****** alone and let ME make that choice.
     

  3. HexHead

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    It's also a Ponzi scheme by definition. The earlier participants are being paid with the later employees contributions.
     
  4. Many people die before reaching retirement. They got nothing back.
     
  5. dango

    dango

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    Just keep paying and my problem is less , then the ball is in your court and watch what you ask cause one medical issue can wipe you out..........!
     
  6. Z71bill

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    Congress passed a law requiring you to make those payments. :upeyes:

    They also decide if and how much money you will be entitled to.

    I am 99.9% sure that by the time I am old enough they will have changed the law - and anyone with income above $XX will get zero.

    Since I have planned, saved/invested - I will get nothing -

    Idiots losers with no plan and no savings will still get a check.

    Not only is social security an entitlement program - after these changes - it will encourage bad behavior (no savings) and punish good behavior.
     
  7. dango

    dango

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    You people are oblivious to the real problem that is inevitable
    in your life time , you can't eat money ! BACK TO THE LAND !
     
  8. G29Reload

    G29Reload Tread Lightly

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    Its not an entitlement if its earned or contributed to.

    Handouts are another story.

    If you paid into SS, you get, same for medicare.
    If you served in the .mil, you get veterans benefits. Period.

    Obama phones, food stamps, welfare, EITC, are another story. Cut off completely except for the most dire of circumstances.
     
  9. shotgunred

    shotgunred local trouble maker

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    Please google compound interest. There is no way the government isn't making out better on than you on this deal.
     
  10. dango

    dango

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    Alass , hope......................!
     
  11. RimfireMan

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    You need to look up the definition of an entitlement because you are wrong.
     
  12. Z71bill

    Z71bill

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    You get a check because the law says you are ENTITLED to be paid $XX if you meet specific criteria.

    So you meet the criteria -

    Work for XX periods, serve in the military, have 3 kids and no job, are unemployed because the company downsized you -

    You get a check -

    They are all entitlement payments - some are 100% welfare - some are part welfare part earned.

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    Don't take my word for it - go see what the

    "OFFICIAL WEB SITE OF THE U.S. SOCIAL SECURITY ADMINISTRATION"

    says about social security payments.


    http://www.socialsecurity.gov/ssi/text-entitle-ussi.htm

    It is under the heading --

    SOCIAL SECURITY ENTITLEMENT REQUIREMENTS
     
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  13. DanaT

    DanaT Pharaoh

    I am generally against entitlements.

    I think the GI Bill is essentially delayed compensation. We can talk about if military compensation is too high/too low etc, but they did the soldiers worked to get that. In the private business world this would be like getting stock options. You get something later that you believe will be of value in instead of more compensation now.

    That said, the entitlement that I am for, is education. I believe that each student should be trained to be able to do a job. Our current education system is broken. Students should not be coming out of high school unemployable. Western European countries manage to educated all their children and without huge debt. Starting life off in the whole is wrong.

    I would even be willing to go as far as others and say that each person in the USA should have to spend 1 year in the military/civil service in exchange for getting free university/trade school.

    Really, an educated population is good for us as a society. It is the same a good economy is better than higher tax rate to increase tax revenues. If the water level rises, all boats rise up.

    Education (not the broken system in the USA we currently have) is an investment in the future of the country that will ensure that the tide gets higher.
     
  14. Paul53

    Paul53 Geezer Boomer

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    Entitlement? It's a job benefit! In exchange for risking their lives to protect the rest of us, my daughter and son-in-law were given a benefits package. I think they deserve more considering the chance of the ultimate sacrifice.

    Get days off, sick pay, health insurance through your employer, is that an entitlement or benefit. Do you risk death on your job?
     
  15. RimfireMan

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    Nope, it really is an entitlement. Look up the definition of entitlement and look at the history of how it all started. The plain and simple fact is that it is an entitlement.
     
  16. RimfireMan

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  17. Eurodriver

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    Dude, do you know how expensive the GI Bill is?
     
  18. bmoore

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    Under a regime.
    We used to get a retirement plan with good on the job benefits. Now the right wing nuts are going after that too. Its funny I know a guy who stocked vending machines and did supply orders on Marine bases for 20 years. He retired at 38. People make pee pee in their diapers for 30 year Police officers and Fireman/Paramedics retiring at 55, a bunch of those guys worked in absolute hell holes in So Cal. People are funny.

    Edit- Oh don't forget that people don't have any problem with all the millions 23 year old tweekers on welfare that are drinking a cold one at 11am on Tuesday. Its the public employees that are the root of all evil, they are the ones on the "gravy train".
     
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  19. certifiedfunds

    certifiedfunds Tewwowist

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    That's because we have to pay for it.
     
  20. bmoore

    bmoore

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    Under a regime.
    Yeah what a drag. You can pick up the phone and in 4-6 minutes people will be at your door ready to help you, no matter the problem. Its the most instant return of your money you will ever get in government.
     
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