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Ennahdha Founder Attacked at “Tolerance in Islam” Conference

Discussion in 'Religious Issues' started by DonGlock26, Aug 7, 2012.


  1. DonGlock26

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    Religion has that effect on people.
     

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    Not quite.

    As of today, Islam has launched 19,436 deadly attacks, just since 9/11. More of these deadly attacks keep happening daily.

    Meanwhile, other religions haven't launched any such 'religion'-inspired, hate-and-kill-all-unbelievers, take-over-the-world type attacks.

    Nice try at the false moral-equivalence argument.
     
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    Isaiah 53:4-9

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    You really aren't a student of history if you honestly believe that.
     
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    King, thank you for acknowledging that. Yes, every major religion has taken its turn at persecuting others at some point in time. Islam is simply the current example of a pattern that occurs repeatedly throughout history.
     
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    No other 'religion' has murdered 280 million innocent people. Godless Communism comes in at a distant second place, with 100 million innocents murdered in the 20th century.

    No other 'religion' was started by a murderous, thieving pedophile.

    The Koran says "slay the infidel", and obviously many Muslims take that seriously. Today's total of deadly Muslim attacks just since 9/11 has reached 19,455. Why does the same total for each of the other religions today stand at zero, if 'all religions persecute others'?

    The Koran says a woman's testimony is worth only half that of a man. It allows men to marry up to 4 wives and have sex with slave girls. It says a son's inheritance should be twice that of a daughter. It tells husbands to beat disobedient wives. Please cite comparable misogyny in the Bible (hint: it isn't there). Stockholm police say there is an average of 5 rapes a day there now. This is done by Muslim immigrants. Rapes of children under 15 accounted for the largest increase in rape stats. In Denmark too, most rapists are Muslim.

    In Norway, a Muslim rapist told his victim that in Islam, women have no rights. He got that right.

    One Swede opined, "We Swedes are really gullible" (they are also really leftist, but that's redundant) "...up until the 60s, the world, through Swedish eyes, was a beautiful place" (yes, remember those idyllic ABBA songs?) But, he continued, "being this naive is like a small child walking naked into a world pedophile convention". Another man who got it right.

    The fact is, Islam is the original Nazi ideology. It was essentially copied by Hitler (a Socialist, another leftist). We urgently need to stop listening to the left. We need to stop Islamic immigration while we still can, while we still have some freedom. Do it for our children.
     
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    `Well said snowbird!
    ~ "The fact is, Islam is the original Nazi ideology. It was essentially copied by Hitler (a Socialist, another leftist). We urgently need to stop listening to the left. We need to stop Islamic immigration while we still can, while we still have some freedom. Do it for our children." ~
     
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    True, I think you would be hard pressed to find a major world religion that hasn't, when it has colluded with the state, not committed some sort of attrocity. That is why there should be a clear speration between church and state.
     
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    As you have made abundantly clear so many times, you have no idea what facts are in either the abstract or specific. You simply twist, or when necessary invent, the "facts" you think will bolster your position.
     
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    To be fair, you have to compare the number of those killed to the total population of the planet at the time. So, obviously, no one has matched Islam in terms of absolute numbers, but is that still true when expressed in terms of percentage of total people alive at that time?
     
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    The greatest evils men do, is when they collude religion and state. The reason Islam has been radicalized is because they have mixed the state and religion. I can't think of an Islamic state that does not have "religious police" or is not repressive or violent. There are plenty of peace loving Islamic people in the United States, happy to be away from opression to worship in peace. Then there are those who are affected by state religion abroad, or sent on behest of those state religions. Those are dangerous folks.

    The core of the issue is the collusion of state and religion. It should never happen.
     
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    Stalin once cynically said that while the murder of one person was tragic, the murder of millions was just a statistic. Anyway, let's just say that both Islam and Godless Communism have murdered millions of innocents and are vile. Fair enough?
     
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    Fair enough.

    (and just for the record, I'm a godless capitalist)
     
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    I agree wholeheartedly.
     
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    Tell us, oh 'wise' one, is the following fact "abstract" or "specific"?

    On Aug., 14, 2012, at Damaturu, Nigeria, Boko Haram Muslims slew 9 people.

    The only thing "twisted" is your perverse support of this kind of evil. It is noted that you say nothing against Islamic pedophilia, FGM, polygamy, hatred for any who are different, genocide, etc. But you often "twist, or when necessary invent, the "facts" you think will bolster your position". For example, you claim America deliberately committed genocide against the native Indians, and you frequently cite Old Testament passages as "proof" that Christianity is as bad as Islam, ignoring that today's terrorism, murder and mayhem is almost exclusively Muslim and Christian-rein (free of Christians).:upeyes:
     
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    I agree with you and Norske about having a reasonable amount of separation of church and state. The trouble here and now is, our leftist establishment sees nothing wrong with banning Christmas carols and Nativity scenes from village squares, while allowing creeping sharia to take over our courts and culture.

    Islam was radical from the very beginning, when it was started by an evil pedophile lunatic with a penchant for robbery, rape, and beheading.

    As for peaceful Muslims, how can we tell them from the Koran-approved kind? A Russian I car-pooled with years ago, before 9/11, said, quite rightly, "A Muslim is a very dangerous person". He cited Muslim populations in central Asia who had lived peaceably with Russians for centuries, but then, with no warning, started taking the Koran seriously once again, and murdering non-Muslims. Let's err on the side of caution, and stop all Muslim immigration until such time as they have stamped out the bloodthirsty streak in Islam, permanently, by themselves over in their homelands. There is nothing "bigoted" about that; rather, it is about common sense and our survival, which leftists oppose for some reason.
     
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    No, what's twisted is your trying to claim anyone who opposes your bigotry and unreasoning hatred must support terrorists and terrorism. The complete failing of this kind of attack has been pointed out to you many times before, yet you continue in this kind of behavior which simply reinforces the fact that neither truth nor accuracy matter to you in the least.
     
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    Saying that there is no peaceful Muslims based on the Koran is ludicrous. The Saracen of old let Christians live in peace in their domain as Dhimi, or "People of the Book". The Berbers comming up from Africa are a diffent story, they were radical and violent. The red fez the shriners wear is ironic, as the Berbers wore white fez's until they made them red with blood of their enemy.

    So, there has always been factions in Islam, Sunis and Shiites, for example.

    To say their are no peaceful Muslims is like saying there are no peaceful Catholics. Nothing in the doctrine has ever repudiated the persecution of "heretics". But, do I think all Catholics, based on the official doctrine are out to burn me at the stake? Hardly. There are lots of good peaceful Catholic people.

    So, to blanket the entire people of a religion based on doctrine or the actions of others doesn't work with me.

    Otherwise, I would not have any Catholic friends, I do. In High School I had a kurdish Muslim friend, who immigrated. I also had a Bhudist friend. I also had Agnostic friends.

    I really don't care about a person's religious choice, but the content of their character.
     
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    No, what's twisted is your claim, that noticing that today's total of deadly Muslim attacks, just since 9/11, which has now reached 19,464, is "bigoted":upeyes:. "Unreasoning hatred" is what your Koran preaches; it is what gave us 9/11. Why do you support that? Oh, that's right -it's because you hate America and Christianity so much.

    Your Koran also preaches takiyya, or lying. But that doesn't bother you at all because "neither truth nor accuracy matter to you in the least".

    But you sure do grovel and lick Muslim sandals in a very adept manner. Must be all the years of practice.
     
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    Where did I say that? Oh right, you're just demonstrating your willingness to invent positions for those pointing out your bigotry.
    Where have I ever said I support either unreasoning hatred, such as the kind you demonstrate, or the Qur'an? Please, share the post. Undoubtedly this will be yet another in the long line of challenges you avoid or hide from.
    Again, you misrepresent and lie while accusing others of the same behavior. You may be wrong, but at least you're consistent.
    I'll challenge you again to demonstrate anywhere I've done anything of this sort, just for the pleasure I receive from watching you flee and hide.