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Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by Restless28, Jan 9, 2012.
We were warned in 1961.
We didn't listen.
Too bad Johnson didn't listen.
Sadly your post will fall upon deaf ears and blind eyes. The nation is so marginalized and overwhelmed by lies that the truth no matter how loud and clear, cannot be heard, seen or believed.
Just look here to see what I mean: http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=18408538&posted=1#post18408538
Yep. Sad it is, maybe even a bit maddening.
Very maddening for me...
I've seen this before...
Ike knew reality but sadly no one listened to him.
ETA - I wonder what he thinks about the Immigration Act of 1965? It's obvious he never envisioned his successors selling out what he stood for.
Eisenhower was stuck in the forty's, never understood technical advances and never understood economics. Damn near cost this country it's place in history.
Pooh poohed missiles with nukes as a viable weapon system until he found a Russian satellite over his head, forcing him into the 20th century. He was the architect of the Bay of Pigs and started it in motion, leaving Kennedy to hold the bag when it failed. Great General, not really bright about non-military matters.
Eisenhower acknowledges the need for the military industrial complex.
Warning against "unwarranted influence" has its merits, but does not negate the need.
There is a lot missing in that video clip. One may want to read the entire speech for a better prospective.
I think this passage is equally relevant today.
Aww! Party pooper! You and fwm went and spoiled all their fun.
Nobody ever quotes his other point in that same speech, not to borrow money our grandchildren are going to have to pay back.
That another really good point.
These asshats have been stoking the debt up and up knowing full well they will be long and dead when it comes time to pay the bill.
We NEED a military industrial complex.
WTH kind of scope do you think a military runs at?
There is no other scale at which a military runs. Why are railheads located near Navy piers? Cranes? Gigantic warehouses?
You can't run the US Marine Corp out of the basement of a townhouse in Georgetown.
The military's very being requires space, hardware, materials handling.
It was the strength of our industrial complex that won WWII.
Ever see an Iowa class battleship? Those were probably the last true Navy ship. By that, I mean it was a NAVY Navy ship.(s) Built in place like the Brooklyn NAVY yard. By Navy rates. Welders, shipfitters, etc. Was a time when the US Government built its own stuff.
Eventually, that stuff (shipbuilding, etc) was farmed out to big corporations like Bath or Northrop Grumman. Just like when Singer Sewing machine made .45s and GM made tanks and jeeps instead of cars, when it comes to cranking things out, the .gov turned to industry.
Over time, the whole deal just got privatized. We contract to private companies in the MIC to build stuff we need.
Because you don't buy rocket launchers at a suburban 7-11 or quiet strip mall somewhere. Nor do you just buy a couple. You need them cranked out by the tractor trailer load. By industry with the economy of scale to do it cheaply and effectively enough.
There's nothing sinister about the MIC. We need it to live and will again someday. The .mil needs something, procurement gets a contract rolling and some lucky bidder gets to make something for our defense. That's all it is.
He complains about the same Military industrial complex that helped the Soviets and Eisenhower's armies defeat Hitler.