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Educate Me On Gen 4s

Discussion in 'General Glocking' started by Tophatter, Jan 23, 2013.

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  1. Tophatter

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    I currently carry a P30, and while it's a fine pistol, mag/parts availability is starting to annoy me more than a little bit, so I'm giving some thought to transitioning to a Glock 17. However, I have tiny little girl hands, and the only Glocks that I can get a proper grip on are Gen 4s.

    Glocks are well-known for their simplicity of design, and I'm curious if anything about that has changed with the Gen 4s. Are they still guns you can detail strip with a ballpoint pen and all that other famous stuff? Not surprisingly, none of my local shops are willing to let me tear down Gen 2s side by side with Gen 4s and poke around.
     
  2. F106 Fan

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    Have you done any research on the current rash of Glock ejection problems? Late model Gen 3s and new Gen 4s are included. You can't go a single week on this forum without another BTF (Brass To Forhead) thread.

    Do a little research before you decide on one brand or another.

    Richard
     

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  3. DocWills

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    oh please. Glock has the finest yet in gen 4. Unless you shhot weak ammo or have a beginners technique. The Glock design runs with about 33 parts, only the frame and a few of the internals are different. Stripping is still by removal of three pins. Detail dissassembly is easy too.

    :supergrin::supergrin::supergrin::supergrin::supergrin:
     
  4. F106 Fan

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    There are a lot of people who agree with you! There are a lot of people who don't!

    It's a crap shoot whether any given gun will function properly. Sometimes you win, sometimes, well, maybe it goes back and forth to Smyrna.

    It's worth considering the current state of affairs before settling on a brand. If the issues seem minor, go for it!

    But do some research!

    Richard
     
  5. 1RoundEye

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    This video give a good breakdown of the changes that go into the Gen4 pistols after the GLOCK ID stuff at about 5:53.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFcFwXU4xMo"]Shot Show 2013 | Glock Announcements - YouTube[/ame]
     
  6. Scrappy

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    Didnt they change the ejector housing and trigger bars too? The ejector housing has a new slot molded at a 5 degree steeper angle? I think its the same on the gen 3 SF models too.
     
  7. Tophatter

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    Quite a bit, yeah. I'm also aware that the Gen 4s aren't well-regarded by a lot of the top trainers, but, c'est la vie. Gen 3s and Gen 2s are just too big for my freakishly short fingers, so it's a Gen 4 or something else.
     
  8. FnKev

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  9. Substance-P

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    Any benefit to a Gen 3 SF? It will be just as small as a Gen 4 with no inserts. If wanting the smallest option out of the box is what you are looking for, I think the SF is something to consider.
     
  10. Tophatter

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    See, this is where my ignorance of Glocks comes into the equation: I thought the SF models were limited to .45 ACP?
     
  11. Scrappy

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    10mm and 45 ACP models
     
  12. bigcix

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    I'm just hoping glock comes out with a gen 4 36
     
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  13. Tophatter

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    Eh. Yeah, I'd prefer to stick with 9mm.

    Sounds like I need to take my chances with a Gen 4 17.

    They've got to get it right eventually...right?
     
  14. High Altitude

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    Personally, I think the Gen4 models are the best Glocks yet.

    Grip size/texture and the magazine release does it for me.
     
  15. DannyR

    DannyR Moderator Millennium Member

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    I think the Gen4's are the best Glocks to date. My four have been flawless.
     
  16. Tophatter

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    And that's why I'd even be chancing it, the fact that it seems like there's a chance - arguably even a good chance - to pick up a good Gen 4.

    I just want to make sure the reason I'm buying a Glock - ease of maintenance, simplicity of design, widespread availability of parts and accessories - continues to exist in the Gen 4.
     
  17. Bill Lumberg

    Bill Lumberg BTF Inventor

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    For duty use, it's hard to find one that's not rock solid. On the internet, it's very difficult to find a report of one that functions at all.
     
  18. TTex

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    Yes! The Gen 4's are just as easy to maintain, just as simply designed, and parts availability is still there (with possibly a few minor exceptions for redesigned pieces). They didnt try to reinvent the wheel when they designed the Gen 4 they just tweaked a few things.
    I like the Gen 4's! My next purchase (when I can find one) will be a Gen 4 G21.
     
  19. BMiracletx

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    Personally I have all Gen3 9mms, but love the Gen 4 on my 21, 22, 23, 31, 32, 33!

    I am still hesitant to get a Gen 4 9mm even thought they have supposedly fixed them with the new recoil spring.
     
  20. Is the GEN 4 trouble free? 100%? No.

    Is any gun? No.

    Are there fixes for GEN 4's that have these issues? Yes.

    I own 4 GEN 4 Glocks. I don't have any problems.

    But do they exist? Yes.

    For me, the GEN 4 brought me back to Glock after getting out of them in the late 90s. GEN 4 is all I consider. I holding out for a GEN 4 20 and 26 in FDE.

    TTR