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Duty Guns and Ammo

Discussion in 'Cop Talk' started by Yankee2718, Sep 26, 2011.

  1. Yankee2718

    Yankee2718

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    How sick are you guys of getting issued guns that use ammo that costs a fortune, and then only get maybe 2 boxes of 50 from your dept to use for practice? I'm issued a 40 so I know I don't have it too bad, but I feel for the guys that are issued 45gap and 357sig. Shoot, even ACP is damn expensive now. Sometimes I wish they just gave me a 9mm and loaded it with the right ammo... Ranger T 127... GDHP 124+P.... HST 124/147+P... I dunno, I just have a hard time seeing significant differences between all the calibers. Not enough to warrant the extra cost of ammo. Especially when we a getting furloughed and OT cuts. But wait, we need new guns. Let's stick with 40. Ok rant off! Had to get that off my chest. :cool:


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  2. SAR

    SAR CLM

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    The Department provides us range ammo to qualify with and duty ammo to carry. They also provide practice ammo for our live fire training days. Ammo is provided for any shooting we do on-duty. The only ammo I have to buy is ammo I use when I shoot on my own time.

    They will not give us ammo to just go practice with... any ammo the Department provides has to be used at a Department sanctioned range or training location.
     


  3. NMPOPS

    NMPOPS

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    I really don't see what the problem is. You are supplied with duty, qualification abd training ammo. What more do you need?

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  4. DaBigBR

    DaBigBR No Infidels!

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    Circling the wagons.
    I don't see much price difference between calibers at the per box level in duty ammo. A lot of what you're paying for is QC, so I think proportionally duty ammo is cheaper between calibers by comparison.
     
  5. <----Would pay not to have to carry a .40... :whistling:



    My last gig issued .45ACP's. We got duty ammo and qualification ammo. Had to buy or own practice ammo however. I'd be nice if a department would give you all the ammo you wanted, but in this economy, that hardly realistic unfortunately.
     
  6. SCSU74

    SCSU74 St. Cloud Proud

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    All our ammo is provided, but we are limited to 100 rds of practice ammo a month. I shoot a bit more than that and i agree it does get expensive.
     
  7. Yankee2718

    Yankee2718

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    Yes, they provide duty ammo and practice ammo, but 100 rounds of practice ammo every other month is hardly adequate. I'd rather be issued 9mm and have the ability for more rounds to be bought for practice. Plus, when I want to shoot my duty gun for practice on my own time I get stuck paying 15 to 20 bucks a box of 50 for 40 cal when I could pay 20 bucks or so for 100 rounds of 9mm. That is my biggest issue with it.




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  8. nitesite10mm

    nitesite10mm Dog Lover

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    My department issues 180-gr HST for our issued G22s. This year I think I was handed four boxes of it last time. For practice ammo I was given I think 300 rounds of American Eagle 180-gr TC jacketed. If I want more practice ammo I can ask for it. It doesn't have to be shot in anyones presense.

    Trouble is, I carry a 1911 so all the ammunition for it is at my expense, both duty carry and training. Same with my 9mm BUG. I don't expect my department to provide me with any of that ammo, as it is solely my choice and I consider myself fortunate to be allowed to exercise those options.

    So I reload. Even cast my own bullets from the 500-lbs of wheel weights I currently have. My "training ammo" for 9mm or 230-gr .45s about $4.50/100 which is miniscule.

    Since I have reloaded for years, and also reload for .38/.357, 10mmAuto, .44 Special, .223, .243, .270 and 12-ga and 20-ga I don't see that making my own ammo for police training is any bit of trouble as I'm already doing it anyway.

    Now, if I didn't enjoy my hobby I would probably be somewhat frustrated as the original poster mentions.
     
  9. DaBigBR

    DaBigBR No Infidels!

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    Circling the wagons.
    I guess I misunderstood.

    My department provides a box of duty ammo every few years. Your situation is not so bad.
     
  10. OLY-M4gery

    OLY-M4gery

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    100 rounds of rifle and pistol ammo provided every time the range is open for practice shoots.

    Which is every Monday.

    Targets, ammo, eye+ear protection all provided by the department.

    They provide duty ammo as well.
     
  11. nitesite10mm

    nitesite10mm Dog Lover

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    Suuhhhhhh-Weeeeet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  12. jwhite75

    jwhite75 Gubmint Worker

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    Maybe try to get some of the guys on you rdept or close by to go in on a group buy. Buy it by the case, multi case, or pallet and the price improves quite a bit.
     
  13. We have two practice days a quarter where we can shoot all that we want. It would be more regulated if more people showed up, but since it is usually only a handful it is pretty easy to burn through 250 rounds.
     
  14. Riggs83

    Riggs83

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    We are issued .45's and they only give up the ammo to qualify with twice a year. They make us keep our JHP Gold Dots for a whole year....some of the rounds really look like hell when they finally issue us new Gold Dots. Bottom line is we have to provide all practice ammo and fight for range time with civilians at our own range!!! :steamed:
     
  15. toddmog

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    We get 50 rounds of practice ammo 2 or 3 times a year. We also get ammo for quals. If you don't qual the first time though, ammo is on you. We usually shoot duty ammo for fall quals and get new then. I have to provide all my own rifle ammo, practice and duty.
     
  16. sixgun2

    sixgun2 packin heat

    Well thats better a than a sharp stick in the eye. by the looks of the preceeding comments you have it better than most:wavey:
     
  17. Goldendog Redux

    Goldendog Redux Shut your mouth

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    While it is no free for all here, if you want to shoot, the ammo is there. Duty ammo gets shot up yearly. No complaints here. Obviously if you want to shoot 100 rounds a day in three different calibers, you are gonna have to buy your own.

    MF
     
  18. CJStudent

    CJStudent Fenced In

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    Wow. We get qual ammo once a year; also the only time we can shoot our duty weapons (they stay at the facility and are issued for armed posts (perimeter and outside escorts)).
     
  19. Lt Scott 14

    Lt Scott 14

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    After retiring, I had enough ammo to outfit 5 guys for 2-3yrs worth of quals. Never wasted a weekend not working extra security jobs, or spending for a plasma tv I didn't use. Reloaded, bought, traded lot of different calibers to stay ahead of the game. Quals were once a year, at our option we could qual 2-3 times per year. Never depended on more than a 2 bx of 50 rds from the dept. It's only your life out on the street, do what you feel you should to keep the edge. Had to buy ammo a few weeks ago and at that price sold now, wish I'd kept back a little more.
     
  20. Same here. I don't practice nearly as much as I should either.