How sick are you guys of getting issued guns that use ammo that costs a fortune, and then only get maybe 2 boxes of 50 from your dept to use for practice? I'm issued a 40 so I know I don't have it too bad, but I feel for the guys that are issued 45gap and 357sig. Shoot, even ACP is damn expensive now. Sometimes I wish they just gave me a 9mm and loaded it with the right ammo... Ranger T 127... GDHP 124+P.... HST 124/147+P... I dunno, I just have a hard time seeing significant differences between all the calibers. Not enough to warrant the extra cost of ammo. Especially when we a getting furloughed and OT cuts. But wait, we need new guns. Let's stick with 40. Ok rant off! Had to get that off my chest. Outdoor Hub mobile, the outdoor information engine Wanna kill these ads? We can help!