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Dual Survival Season Three

Discussion in 'Survival/Preparedness Forum' started by Deputydave, Jan 2, 2013.

  1. HalfHazzard

    HalfHazzard Señor Member

    Feb 7, 2012
    Republic of Texas
  2. Joshhtn

    Joshhtn The eBay Guy Silver Member

    Mar 31, 2009
    Middle Tennessee
    I love that show!

  3. Deputydave

    Deputydave Millennium Member

    Feb 20, 1999
    Well, having heaped praise on the show in the above posts....last night is the first episode I can honestly say I didn't enjoy. The episode was 'On the Menu'. It was a good concept i.e. you're stuck in the middle of nowhere in South Africa, Jeep breaks down, and there are poachers in the area.

    Here was my issue(s)...

    Cody and Joe are on the move away from potential poachers. Okay, serious threat. Problem is that they continue to stop and argue about how fast/slow to walk. You would think that they could hold a conversation WHILE walking away from a threat instead of just standing there in the middle of nowhere waving their *****'s.

    Same thing when deciding where to sleep. Joe wants a thorn shelter on the ground, Cody wants to sleep in a tree. Now I have to sit and watch them argue about it. Seems to me that Cody slept on the ground last time he was in Africa and did so again later in this episode. I would have rather them spent a bit more time on Joe covering their tracks and Cody measuring out the sodium manganese to purify water. Both would/could be more useful knowledge than standing around arguing.

    I hope this isn't an indicator of what the rest of the season has in store. A bit of differing view points is entertaining but also provides different options. Dumbass arguements in the middle of nowhere instead of intelligent movement gets tedious.

    Still a fan of the show...but they need to chill, gel and get their act together.
  4. What you saw as a pointless argument, I saw as a debate over the merits of two seemingly equally attractive options. They both laid out their reasons for the way they wanted to do things and left it to the viewer to determine which made more sense.

    BTW, they weren't really on the run from poachers, just like their jeep didn't really break down. It was part of the "survival scenario" they were demonstrating.
  5. Deputydave

    Deputydave Millennium Member

    Feb 20, 1999
    I understand the poacher situation was fictional for the episode. And I understand the philosophy behind going fast/slow and yes, they needed to discuss that....but not standing still in the middle of a clearing! If the poacher situation is're not getting farther from it. If the wild animal situation is're standing there in the open. Better, more common sense thing to do is to discuss it WHILE moving, even slowly. You can watch where you're going, watch where you've been and still move. That's the point.

    For example, if it were me and you in Africa, I'd be discussing the situation with you (walk fast/slow in the open/concealed etc) while we were on the move. At least then something is being accomplished. The last thing I'd do is stop in the middle of a clearing with you and open a debate. That accomplishes nothing except exposing us to risk from the front and from behind because we're busy arguing the finer points of survival while not moving or being situationally aware.
  6. Well, I certainly don't disagree with anything you said. I can only assume it was easier to film them if they were standing instead of walking. Easier to do multiple takes and edit them together without obvious continuity errors from changing background.
  7. Reaver2218


    Feb 9, 2012
    Columbus, Ohio
    then new guy seems like an idiot and its a shame he was put on the show with Cody.
  8. Jon K

    Jon K

    Mar 28, 2004
    San Diego CA
    Cody seems to exist within the situation and make the best of it.
    Joe wants to fight the situation. While there is a time for fighting , it is not the answer every time.
    If all you have is a hammer, every problem has the same answer.
  9. Deputydave

    Deputydave Millennium Member

    Feb 20, 1999
    Just watched the 'Into the Frying Pan' episode the other day. Okay, I enjoyed that one. Cody had some good, practical advice about chilling out and thinking through a situation and not making a bad adrenaline-induced decision. Don't think I would have skinned the dead cow like Joe. Didn't seem like he used it for anything, or the horns. Good find on the mirror though.

    A note on Dave Canterbury; just watched his apology video on his youtube channel from earlier this month. I give him a big thumbs up and I'm even more impressed with him now than I was before for stepping up to the plate. Takes a man to do that. And I think he has a tremendous amount of experience to offer and who knows, might even try out one of the Pathfinder courses.

  10. Deputydave

    Deputydave Millennium Member

    Feb 20, 1999
    That is a good take on it. Cody is layed back and I like that. It is smart to think things through and then do what needs to be done in a cool, calm, methodical way. Good example is the episode I mentioned above. Joe was ready to charge out. Cody simply asked him, 'when you were involved in an operation, how much plannng went into it'? Joe's answer was weeks, maybe months. Cody was right on the money in that they needed a plan rather than just charging out into the desert. I've lived in the desert here in the U.S. and overseas. It isn't to be taken lightly.