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DPMS Sportical VS. S&W Sport Rifle

Discussion in 'General Firearms Forum' started by Civilian sheep Dog, Jan 22, 2012.

  1. Hey guys, I have a few extra dollars coming back to me this year, went all of 2011 with no major purchases. Now I'm in the market for a AR. the two I have in mind are the DPMS Sportical rifle (223/5.56) or the S&W M&P Sport which is the same caliber AR. I'm kinda leaning towards the M&P curious if anyone out there has any experience with either of these rifles or would recommend either of them
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  2. Bimmer1

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    The M&P 15 Sport model get lots of great reviews!!! If you want a bare bones AR the M&P 15 Sport isn't a bad way to go.
     


  3. Reswob

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    Most would say both are crap, and you could find a much better AR for the money...
     
  4. Javelin

    Javelin Got Glock? Silver Member

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    Yeah I wouldn't choose either to be honest. I have better things to spend $600 bones on.
     
  5. wrx04

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    I recently did all the research for my first AR, and it can get kinda overwhelming for a newbie. My conclusion was the Colt 6920 is the best bang for the buck out there. I got one for $957 shipped from dsgarms.com, which is pretty damn good (no tax either). Save up a couple hundred extra bucks.

    The general consensus was colt, DD, or BCM is the only way to go if you plan on putting anything more than a couple hundred rounds through it. Buy once, cry once.

    Good luck.
     
  6. zhix

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    Out of those twoI think pretty much everyone will favor the S&W hands down.

    But yes, Colt 6920 for sure.
     
  7. Delcorbett

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    I got to handle a m&p 15 sport the other day and was impressed. It had a heavy barrel, and a magpul 30rnd mag, it was 629.99, cannot go wrong for the price.


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  8. bug

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    I do not Have either, so I don't really KNOW for sure but I have seen a lot of positive stuff about the M&P.

    Also my understanding is that S&W is going to be offering a $100 rebate on M&P rifles so that should bring the price if you shop around to about $550 with tax out the door...
     
  9. collim1

    collim1 Shower Time!

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    I have zero experience with the DPMS, but the M&P sport is hard to beat for the money. I consider it a "range only" gun, but it is a great shooter.

    Reliable and accurate.

    Its a great choice for someone who doesn't need a rifle fit for the battlefield or patrol.
     
    Last edited: Jan 22, 2012
  10. If it's the Jan-June promo it excludes the AR 15 sport. But non the less still a great deal for a reliable AR.
     
  11. i am in the market for a ar-15 as well and the s&w sport looked good to me too but it doesn't have forward assist no dust cover...not saying u really need all that but cant hurt right ....from what a lot of guys told me go with either a stag or rock river ...u can get a nicer rifle for only a little more $$$$ ....also hear great things about palmetto state armory and their prices are awesome
     
  12. emopunker2004

    emopunker2004 Da Jaila'

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    I say build your own. Buy an upper. Buy a stripped lower and lower parts kit.
    PSA has good prices right now.
     
    Last edited: Jan 22, 2012
  13. JaPes

    JaPes Rimfire 1010101

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    I always love these types of replies. They're just so darn useful aren't they?

    "Most would say..." Really? If "most" people think it's crap it's got to be true! :rofl:

    No elaboration on why you wouldn't choose either? That's helpful.

    Several others have asked the OP's question recently. I'll combine the posts I've written as replies:

    I'll be honest. I was in the same position as you when deciding what AR to buy on a budget. Do I buy a complete rifle? Do I build a lower & top it off with an upper? When I started doing my initial research, I was overwhelmed with the myriad of AR build options & details.

    Even though I'm mechanically inclined & a tinkerer, I erred on the side of caution. I purchased my S&W M&P 15-Sport. I don't delude myself into believing that I'm a "tactical operator". When I put my skills & use into context, the S&W M&P 15-Sport fulfills my needs at the right price.

    While I understand the need for a dust cover, the omission of it wouldn't be an issue for my use. I'm at a range. I'm not running & gunning nor competing in any three gun competitions.

    While I understand the purpose & function of a forward assist, the omission of it isn't an issue given my skill level. If a round does not fully chamber, I can gently push on the scallop on the bolt to get it into full battery. If the bolt does not go into battery, my inexperience with the AR platform combined with a forward assist could cause a bigger problem. I'd rather eject the round that won't properly chamber & inspect it, than be an idiot jamming on the forward assist making things worse.

    While I understand the benefits of chrome lined barrels, the fact is that I'm obsessive about cleaning my firearms after every range visit. A chrome lined barrel isn't a priority for the way I will use an AR.

    My lack of knowledge also gave me pause. If it breaks, will I have the tools, resources, & knowledge to fix it on my own? The S&W's limited lifetime factory warranty is a security blanket for this newbie AR owner.

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    Is it the best? Is it the most tactical? Probably not. The S&W M&P 15-Sport is a good practical, all-round rifle. For this AR newb, it is serving as a great gateway to the AR addiction.

    It's barrel is chambered for 5.56, so I can shoot .223 or 5.56. The 1:8 5R rifling is the "Goldilocks" rifling. I can shoot ammo with projectile weights in the middle of the range. I don't shoot projectile weights nearing either end of the range. The Melonite treatment makes cleaning easy.

    As others have advised, you can assemble your own lower & top it off with a complete upper for about the same price. This advice & then post purchase reaction was always given with a good-hearted ribbing.

    Being mechanically inclined & a tinkerer, I the thought of building a lower stuck with me. Having the S&W M&P 15-Sport allowed me to really look at the lower to see how it's all put together. I decided to give it a try.

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    I was a bit apprehensive to build my own lower. I shouldn't have been. If you follow directions step-by-step, assembling a lower is not difficult. I found it to be easy to do. The parts are as plug & play as they get.

    Even though I built a budget lower, using standard parts, I take a measure of pride in assembling it. Assembling my own was also a learning experience. I know how a basic AR lower functions.

    IMO, you can't go wrong either buying a complete rifle like a S&W M&P 15-Sport, or taking the plunge & assembling a lower + topping it off with a complete upper.

    Either way, you'll end up with a good rifle within your budget.

    As for me the more I learn about the AR, the more I realize that there's so much more I don't know. I'm always learning something new.

    Good luck with your decision, & let us know how it turns out for you.

    Cheers!
     
  14. Javelin

    Javelin Got Glock? Silver Member

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    Defend your purchase & methods all you want. Most of us have and have owned the brands. I wouldn't waste my $600 on either of those rifles.

    Why even bother saying more? :dunno:
     
  15. JaPes

    JaPes Rimfire 1010101

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    I was relating why, as a new AR owner, I made my choice. Maybe the OP can find something useful in it, and put it into the context of his choice.

    I'll reiterate that the S&W M&P Sport may not be the best rifle, but it is a good gateway to the AR addiction.

    Why bother saying more? Because the information/experience you have can possibly help those of us that don't have the same level of experience as you.
     
    Last edited: Jan 23, 2012
  16. Javelin

    Javelin Got Glock? Silver Member

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    There is a search button if the OP is really looking into serious ARs.
     
  17. Tim151515

    Tim151515 iHeartGuns

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    I know right. an ar rifle is only good if it is ready to go to battle in the mountains of afghanistan right now. those people who just want one to have fun with at the range without all the extra features that is the price of a handgun or less are just wasting their money :faint:
     
  18. JaPes

    JaPes Rimfire 1010101

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    Ok then.
     
  19. JaPes

    JaPes Rimfire 1010101

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    I took a look at a picture of the DPMS Sportical. The exterior difference, other than the front sights, that stood out is that the DPMS Sportical does not have a brass deflector by the ejection port whereas the M&P Sport does.

    If you're a left-handed shooter, it could be an important difference.