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Double Tap using montana gold jhp in place of XTP?

Discussion in 'The 10 Ring' started by bdcremer, Jan 31, 2010.

  1. bdcremer

    bdcremer The No SpinZone

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    Just got a box of 180 gr. Double Tap controlled expansion for my G29. I thought they used the XTP bullet but instead I got the Montana Gold JHP. Anyone else noticed this change? I would prefer the XTP because of the good reputation XTP has.

    Kinda of disconcerting for a box of ammo at $40 a pop.
     

  2. cowboywannabe

    cowboywannabe you savvy?

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    whats going on with them lately?

    if i order Win STHPs i expect Win STHP.

    if i order 165gr. Got Dots i dont want 180gr. Golden Sabers....et cetera....


    i guess its best to buy locally so you can inspect the ammo. im not too far from the Georgia Arms company but ive ordered from DT twice because of all the prior good press from folks on here like G33 or was it G29?

    anyway all ive read latey is bad press about them and its got me wondering if i should just pony up more dough and go with Cor-Bon, theyve always been consistant with me and ive always got exactly what i ordered when i bought from them on line directly.
     
  3. gatorboy

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    It's pretty nice
    www.reedsammo.com
    www.buffalobore.com

    I just got a shipment from Reeds last week. He is an honest man who responds to e-mail in a professional, timely manner. I waited two months for 400 rds. but my CC was'nt charged until the day my ammo shipped. Ammo was reaonably priced and looks excellent, will find out in about an hour or so.
     
  4. bdcremer

    bdcremer The No SpinZone

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    I received an email back from Double Tap in one day. They replied that they had an issue with getting the proper supply of XTP bullets and so they went to Montana Gold. Double Tap said they sent them their specs for 180 & 200 grain controlled expansion JHP and will perform the same as XTP but with slightly more accuracy.

    I would prefer they put that on their website before you drop $40 for a box of ammo.
     
  5. PATRICE

    PATRICE . . . . .

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  6. Tmygun

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    Yes, I was the one who called them out for using MG 180gr. JHP bullets in place of the advertised 200gr. JHP controlled expansion bullets. MG does not make a 200gr. JHP. I still haven't heard a thing from Double Tap about this. Like I said, they won't be getting anymore of my business.

    Tmygun
     
  7. bdcremer

    bdcremer The No SpinZone

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    I think Double Tap might be a victim of their own success. If they start going down this less than honest route then they will have no business. Lets hope they get things squared away because I like the full load 10mm, not the lite loaded other stuff.
     
  8. Rob Oertel

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    Ok, I just went to the mg web site. I went to their price chart. The only 10mm/40 cal bullet that I see listed there in 200grs is cmj, complete metal jacket. To late for me to phone them but a call might be warranted just to make sure their web site is up to date. Simply in the interest of having complete information.
     
  9. Tmygun

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    My box of DT ammo says 200gr. JHP controlled expansion. I pulled two of the bullets and weighed them. They are 180grs. After I weighed them and found them to be 180grs., I checked the MG bullet site and noticed that they don't make a 200gr. JHP, only a 200gr FMJ. I contacted DT about this three times and heard nothing.

    Tmygun:dunno:
     
  10. cowboywannabe

    cowboywannabe you savvy?

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    and me thinks you never will....:dunno:

    this is sad that no explaination is given by them......i guess its back to Win STHP for me because BB is just too expensive and CB doesnt load a 180 grain and the 165's are not much faster than their .40s&w loads....
     
  11. Tmygun

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    Hey cowboywannabe, why don't you start handloading your own ammo? I've reloaded for quite a few years now and enjoy it almost as much as shooting. You'd save yourself money and could make loads equal to DT.

    Tmygun:cool:
     
  12. seed

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    +1. I've had the same experience with Reed's. They are very up-front, honest, quick to respond and stand up...and reasonably priced compared to competitors. However, I also have yet to shoot the ammo, so stay tuned.

    Don't be put off by their web-site. They will be the first to tell you that it isn't the best looking web-site. But they are very professional in my experience.
     
  13. Taterhead

    Taterhead Counting Beans

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    +1 for handloading. I love handloading/reloading. My practice reloads only cost me about 18 cents per round and my brass lasts a long time.

    Full power loads with premium projectiles and new brass are still only about 45 cents per round. That is about half price or less compared to our favorite factory stuff.
     
  14. +2 for handloading. I also enjoy it as much as shooting, and I can make ANY load I desire. Was absolutely worth the investment.
     
  15. 10mm29

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    I have found the same thing. I just recieved an order on 2/5/10 I ordered the variety pack and out of 4 boxes only 2 are what I ordered. The 200 grn controlled exp went over the chrono @ 1200 fps from my stock glock 29 which equaled the two 180 grain loadings they sent me. I don't think I need to weigh them to figure that one out. I also ordered a 165 grain but they must have been out because I got 180's

    First, last and only time I do business with double tap.
     
  16. Tmygun

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    This just shows they don't care about the customer. I'm sure they've gotten plenty of complaints by now, yet they still send out the wrong stuff:dunno:.

    Tmygun
     
  17. hypnagogue

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    I hate to disappoint you, but I have once again received 200 rounds of exactly what I ordered from Doubletap. Never had an incorrect order, never had a single bad round (five orders in four calibers, so far: 10mm, 40 S&W, 45 Colt, 454 Casull). Shipping, as always, was cheap and quick. I even gave them a recommendation at the gunstore today as I picked up my 20sf (finally!).

    Today's delivery: 165gr GS, 135gr Nosler, 200gr WFNGC. All exactly right.
     
  18. the iceman

    the iceman Proud Veteran CLM

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    No reason to be sorry. I am glad to hear they are at least treating some cuustomers right.
     
  19. Taterhead

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    I echo this statement. I ordered several different shipments in 2009 and I received precisely what I purchased and with speedy delivery. My brother has had the exact same results. I also sent no less than four different e-mail questions about products. I received replies on each within 24 hours - all from Mike McNett personally.