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Done with 10mm Auto -- getting rid of it all!

Discussion in 'The 10 Ring' started by flyandscuba, Oct 31, 2012.


  1. flyandscuba

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  2. glockman10mm

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    Not me. If I need more than the 10 can offer, then I need a 44 mag at it's full power. Why bother with all the overlap in power factors?
    And for me, the 10mm has enough practical power for an auto pistol cartridge. But that's my take. Opinions vary.
     

  3. FLSquirrelHunter

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    sounds like "Nawth Flaw'da"
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    Yes, you should definitely do that. :wavey:

    get rid of it all. heck, I'll even help you dispose of it safely, just send the receivers to my FFL and all the rest straight to me.

    :rofl::rofl::rofl:
     
  4. Chainlink

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    I need some barrels....whatcha got
     
  5. flyandscuba

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    For 10mm power -- I'll shoot 45 Super...

    As for barrels, I've got a KKM 40 S&W conversion, KKM 357 Sig conversion, and Lone Wolf 9x25 Dillon conversion for the G29SF. A KKM 6" hunting 10mm barrel and a Lone Wolf 6" 9x25 Dillon barrel for the G20SF.

    The lot is going with me to the Tulsa Gun Show on 11/10-11 for liquidation.
     
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  6. Chainlink

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    I would be interested in the 40 conversion and the 6" 10mm barrel....just putting it out there if you want to sell it to a member :)
     
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    Sorry to hear it but I would cd up for the kkm 6 inch barrel myself

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    If it was not for needing to use the comp I would probably switch also. But being I hunt with mine the extra noise from the comp is not worth it. Don't want to hurt my ears.
     
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    sent you a pm on the 6 inch 10mm KKM barrel. will take it if you decide to sell to us members.
     
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    Sweet, then sell us your "junk", and you can make more of us 10mm fans happy! do it! sell them all! :supergrin:
     
  12. RYT 2BER

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    How can you compare 460 Rowland to 10mm?

    Good Lord... Guess you don't carry a gun... Because carrying a big gun with a massive compensator on the end is ridiculous both in appearance and practice.

    And 45 super is generally not powered as high as 10mm from what I can tell.

    Oh and before I forget:

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  13. MinervaDoe

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    Sorry to hear that you are leaving the ten millimeter community.

    This thread just reminds me of how versatile the ten millimeter is. At one end of the spectrum we are poo pooing it because it isn't a .460 Rowland, and at the other end of the spectrum, there's people like me marvelling at how dang accurate the cartridge can be. ......
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    AND... Let's keep in mind most of us own our G20s or 29s for SD and CCW. For social work against common bad guys the 10mm will get the job done. I think there's a point of diminishing returns as we keep trying to get hotter/ bigger rounds on bad guys. I'm no fan of the .380 or 9mm for carry, but I'll only carry what I can reliably put rounds on BGs with. It'd be like carrying a Smith 500 for SD. NOt too practical for followup shots or concealability.
     
  15. flyandscuba

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    Shooting 45 Super out of an XDS does that for me... Similar ballistics to full power 10mm Auto - but with a bigger/heavier bullet... from a smaller /lighter package than the G29.


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  16. nickE10mm

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    The .460 Rowland is good but lacks the sectional density of the 10mm. It also lacks the multiple platforms that a 10mm can be bought in - stock. In addtioin, a conversion kit is required for the .460 ($$) and there is NO factory ammo for it ... ANYWHERE. In addition, there are no conversion barrels and takes a non-standard bullet-size (doesn't it?).

    For hunting, I run 200gr XTP @ 1300fps and 200gr WFNGC's at 1350fps for any medium game I run into. (For a little variety or for larger beasts, I have a Ruger SBH .44 mag that pushes 240gr bullets at 1600fps or 310gr bullets at 1300)

    The .460 is cool but I'll take a non-wildcat cartridge any day over it.

    Have fun with that pistol.... it looks like a shooter!!
     
  17. flyandscuba

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    Incorrect - Buffalo Bore, Underwood Ammunition, and even Georgia Arms offer factory ammunition in 460 Rowland.

    The bullet is the same as 45 ACP (.451) and you can use regular 45 ACP dies to reload with. Once a pistol (1911, XD, or Glock) has been converted to 460 Rowland, you can shoot 45 Super, 45 ACP +P, and 45 ACP through the pistol without changing the barrel (no conversion barrel needed - unless you wanted to get one for 400 Corbon... Dont know why you would want that) springs, or mags -- the extractor is strong enough to keep the cartridge at the proper headspace.

    My XD Compact Tactical was $500 NIB & the conversion kit (no gun smithing required) was $299 - so I have $799 in a pistol the size of a G20/21, a 10 or 13+1 capacity - but with the power of a 44 Magnum, 10mm Auto, or 45 ACP depending upon the cartridge used.

    Quite versatile if you ask me!



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  18. MinervaDoe

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    Good to know....

    Not sure if you have the mechtech conversion, but this is what they say about shooting .45ACP in their .45 Rowland 'conversion'.

     
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    I have the conversion sold by www.460Rowland.com - basically, from Johnny Rowland the cartridge designer.

    Yes, cleaning the barrel after shooting 45 Super or 45 ACP is a good practice.


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  20. Any Cal.

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    A .460 makes sense if you aren't already running 10mm reloading gear and guns. If you are, I don't see that big of a difference.

    My everyday 10mm handloads are 230s @ 1130. Running a .460 can add 200fps to that at the expense of sectional density, i.e. .45 230g and .40 180g have the same sectional density, (incidentally, they are about the same speed...). If you wouldn't shoot it w/ a 180g .40 cal, you shouldn't shoot it w/ a 230g .460. I would be interested if it could push 280+ bullets over 1100... but I haven't seen that happen yet.

    As far as .44 Mag power, uh-uh... .460 pushes a 230g bullet as fast as a .44 Mag pushes a 300g bullet. No comparison at all. It is actually closest to warmed up .44 Special or .45 Colt loads, which isn't bad at all, but in no way .44 Mag.