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Discussion in 'GATE Survival & Preparedness' started by hillbillyhans, Jun 24, 2012.

  1. hillbillyhans


    Jun 11, 2012
    I have been going back and forth on this, and have planned for both, but have no one who will talk seriously with me regarding the times that lie ahead.

    I live in the high desert of WY. I live in a town of about 10k ppl. I do not trust these people. Shady at best would describe them. Nothing grows and game is scarce. My parents have a farm in Iowa. Lots of room, away from any population to speak of, and food is plentiful(wild game/long growing season), people there are used to being self-sufficient, have skill sets valuable in hard times, and they can be trusted.

    I read all the time it is best to hunker down, but my gut is telling me to go home, where a self-sustainable life is done everyday. It is 819mi. away. I have military/leo training, my wife has leo training, and we are avid outdoors"people".

    What are your thoughts on buggin'/hunkering with the facts I have given you? This won't be the end all be all discision, but value your opinion. I need to make more preps, but am at the point to where I need to pull the trigger on staying or going?
  2. JC Refuge

    JC Refuge

    Oct 8, 2007
    Every crisis scenario of course requires an assessment of the specific details you might face in bugging out from WY to IA.

    It does sound to me like getting back to IA would be a good Plan A for you. However, 800+ miles IS a long way.

    Obviously, getting there BEFORE the worst happens would be the ideal (make the move now if possible). If and when things do start to unravel and you can see the need to go into survival mode, and IF it looks like you can make it to IA in a one-day drive and you can load up some extra gas, food, water, and other supplies, you could probably give it a go.

    However, if you know that there are roads that are out or blockaded, or shut-down along the way, that changes your odds considerably. Route blockages could happen due to natural or manmade disaster, military/LEO clampdown, local populations taking matters into their own hands, or criminal activity.

    I could go on and on with "what ifs" and "therefores" but again, trying to be well-informed and staying ahead of the curve is going to be key if you want to keep the odds in your favor.

  3. hillbillyhans


    Jun 11, 2012
    We're on the same page. The only obstacle I foresee is I-80. F-250 diesel with pedal/dirtbikes in back with supplies. This is my fiirst choice, but have a Suburu outback, Nissan Xterra, '76 Jeep J10(emp?) to choose from as well. Soon enough I will be able to carry all diesel I need for the trip(+extra). After diesel is all gone, many things can be used to fuel a diesel engine with a little know how, and a can-do attitude. Wish I wouldn't have been so cheap, and put a 4BT cummins in the Jeep.
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  4. SuddenImpact


    Feb 2, 2015
    If I were you, I would move now, BEFORE a shtf event happens. This will save you the stress of having to bug out during a crisis. As much of a pain that it is to plan an 800 mile trip. Its a hell of alot easier to do during times where everything is okay, as opposed to trying to get there when all hell has broken lose. Inevitably, from terrorist, or economic collapse, ebola scare, hurricane etc, something will happen and you will need to haul ass out. The question is would you rather make the trip now when you can enjoy the luxury of gas stations, hotel rooms and rule of law. Or do you want to make the trip during heightened panic and chaos because living in the city is far too dangerous.

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  5. crockett


    Mar 26, 2010
    That's all you need to know.
  6. valvestem


    Mar 25, 2012
  7. Radius_Retention_Systems

    Radius_Retention_Systems RADIUS RETENTION SYSTEMS

    Oct 2, 2015
  8. Dave514


    Jul 6, 2013
    I like the devil I know better than the one I don't. My focus would be on learning how people 5000 years ago survived in the high desert of WY. Fishing, trapping, hunting, water sourcing and edible wild plants would all be something that I would immerse myself in. Even if it meant going and taking some Cody Lundin class.

    I find that to be important in allowing an option besides trekking in the unknown for an 800 mile trip that just might end with many more responsibilities, challenges and mouths per square food source than what I left.
  9. rds95991


    Aug 21, 2011
    It's a what if situation. You should make several plans and at the time required choose the plan that is best for the situation.

    If I was planning an 800 mile exodus, I might also consider setting up hidden caches at waypoints.along the way and maybe pre scout for out of sight safe locations should a stop be necessary.
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  10. ScaryWoody


    Apr 16, 2005
    I would have enough preps where you live to last a month or so. Then I would prepare the journey preps to the folks place. In any emergency the roads will be clogged anyway. Sheltering in place, waiting for things to settle down then leave, well, that just makes sense to me.

    Personally, in a SHTF scenerio, I'm going to find Bill DeVane's house. He's got all that gold and horses and a cool hammock. Sorry, just watched a Rosland Gold commercial.
    Last edited: Jan 6, 2016
  11. Jager1

    Jager1 UtilitarianSect Lifetime Member

    Jan 3, 2003
    Phoenix, Arizona
    I would never gamble on a plan anywhere near that distance.

    Far too many opportunists will be manning the roads and you will be picked clean.

    My plan of 70 miles is a gamble from hell as it is. and I'm only going to attempt it when the block is on fire.

    I'm bugging in and stacking 'em like cord wood until then.
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  12. barth

    barth six barrels

    Oct 7, 2011
    The Free Zone
    The place you live seems to hold no sway.
    Why are you living there at all?
    Move now and be happier on all counts.
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  13. rds95991


    Aug 21, 2011
    One thing you may want to keep in mind is that should a SHTF situation occur, populations will be moving out to areas where resources are. It's hard enough during the regular seasons to get a deer at times. Imagine how much harder it would be with no limits on licenses or take.

    If I were to consider a situation where I was moving to the land of plenty, I would also make sure it was defensible with a community that would band together to repel the invading masses.

    I have a similar situation in Kansas. Water, land, game, woodlot as well as a gas well I might be able to tap. I question how defensible it would be with no high ground to speak of and the distance to the neighbors.
  14. If you could live anywhere else, why not live there now?
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