So have been meaning take my G20 to the range for sometime to check some numbers and compare DT to some of the other 10mm i have piled up. I just purchased a nice Chrono at Midway and decided to try it out. Weather was 93deg today so definitely nothing that should limit velocity. I am just going to list the average of 5 shot string from each load. DT 135gr = 1463 ft/sec DT 200gr XTP= 1089 ft/sec DT 180 XTP = 1211 ft/sec Win Silvertips 175gr = 1189ft/sec Federal Hydra 180gr = 1070ft/sec For comparison i also chrono'd some 9mm and 5.56 rounds and those numbers were right on to where they are supposed to be so it is not a equipment issue.. Out of M&P 9mm compact Federal HST 147gr = 950 ft/sec Federal HST 124gr +P= 1135 ft/sec Ranger T 147gr = 946 ft/sec Corbon DPX 125gr = 1130 Out of 14.5" barrel Noveske= Privi M193 55gr = 3042 ft/sec XM193 55gr = 3056 ft/sec Brown Bear 62gr = 2780 ft/sec Silver Bear 62gr = 2777 ft/sec The DT rounds are significantly slower than "advertised" numbers. I understand that the loads i have are not currently available. Since it looks like DT no longer uses GD or XTP bullets. But i doubt the velocities listed currently should be much different for same bullet weight. DT shows 1600ft/sec for their 135gr and 1300ft/sec for their 180gr and my numbers are way off. They dont even show the 200gr hollow point anymore. The Win Silvertips peformed basically identical velocity wise compared to the DTs. Also, any thoughts on the current line up of DT 10mm ammo? Are they still the go to guys for 10mm since they no longer carry the GD or XTP? All inputs appreciated.