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Disappointed in Brownells

Discussion in 'Black Rifle Forum' started by Ruggles, Dec 14, 2012.


  1. Ruggles

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    I have been shopping there for years and have never had a issue at all. What follows is just my opinion and most likely will not be shared by others and I am fine with that.

    Today my friend who bought a Sig 400 last week ask me to find him some mags as he only has the one that came with the gun. He is a avid hunter but is new to ARs and I helped him buy the gun and ammo so far.

    I go to Brownells as I know they sell 10 packs of mags for a reasonable price. I have bought these 10 packs before.

    I find some PMags, black 30 rounders for 10 for $99.99 a heck of a deal. I call him give him all the info down to the part number. This was around 2:00pm or so.

    At 6:00 pm he calls me and says he can not find those mags for that price, all he can find is the 10 pack for $125. I know he is new to AR mags and think he must be looking at something wrong. I then look it up and he is right they are now $125 which while still a good price is not $99.

    Now I have no problem with somebody selling something for whatever price but it sure seems like bad form to raise the price on a day that AR mags are in high demand because of the tragedy in CT. I can't help but feel that they are in fact taking advantage of it in a way. I expect this kind of crap out of Cheaper Than Dirt as the have done it before but I just thought more of Brownells. :dunno:

    Could be a odd timing I guess and have nothing to do with the shooting but sales do not typically end in mid afternoon.

    Ended up buying at Midway USA for $12.50 per PMag. They have a limit of 5 per order now BTW.

    Not sure if I personally (and that all I am saying just me, not asking anyone else) to stop buying at Brownells but honestly I think I am done with them. Just feels slimy, CTD gouge after the election in 08, that was bad but not not as bad as doing so after the tragedy today IMO.
     

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    I have news for you, AR mags have been in demand for long before today.
     

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    True, but was there a sudden shift in demand from 2pm to 6pm today? If so why?

    Again just my opinion on it. :wavey:
     
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    Are you sure there wasn't a timed sale of some kind going on? Perhaps one deal was for non-windowed, and the other for windowed?

    It's always possible they did jack up prices, but since I didn't see it for myself, I can not say for sure.
     
  5. Ruggles

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    Funny you should mention that. The window mags were indeed $125 when I saw the standard mags for $99 today. In fact when my friend called me that was what I thought he was looking at wrong, the window mags and not the standard. The windows mags are now $155 per 10.

    In fact check this out now:

    http://www.brownells.com/magazines/rifle-magazines/magazines/index.htm

    The main page still shows the $99 deal right now but when you click into it it is $125.

    Again not trying to start crap for them, just expressing my feelings. Hell honestly this shooting makes me just want to be mad at something substantial I guess.
     
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    If you would have called, you probably would have gotten the $99 price.
     
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    Maybe but not my point. Again I could care less what they charge and $12.50 for a PMag is not a bad price at all. Just the timing is off. Heck even if not connected and the price was going to go up anyways (again who ends a sales in mid afternoon :dunno:) I would have thought they would have not done it for appearance sake at the least.

    Maybe I am reading into this more than I should, I do this sort of stuff at work so I am maybe over aware of pricing and sales etc. :dunno:
     
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    Capitalism at its finest. If you're selling everything you can get your hands on the market demands you raise your price to try to stem the demand. Pure economics at work-I love it!

    If you have $125 and want it, buy them. If not, wait and if enough of the market agrees with you, then you pay less.
     
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  10. Cole125

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    The way Brownells works is when your signed into your account it shows a special low price on most items, lists them as lower than when your are signed out.
     
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    I agree, sell it for whatever you want too. I have zero problem with that as long as it is honest. After the 08 election CTD was posting false MSRP on their websites to make it look like their prices were below MSRP when in fact they were higher. That is crap IMO and dishonest to boot. I will personally never buy from them again which sucks cause they are Texas based and I support Texas business when I can. Just as Ammo To Go and Primary Arms :rofl:

    But to raise prices after 20 small children are killed on an item because you can seems wrong to me. Maybe it's is because my friend was buying just to have some, it had nothing to do with todays events. Again he has 1 mag right now and just wanted some more, if nothing happened today he would have acted the same in other words.. What was a "everyday" transaction turned into something effected by the shooting.

    Again I was just expressing my feelings not trying to slant others against Brownells. Like I said I have used and liked them for years.
     
  12. Ruggles

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    Could be but I was "signed in" on the same device (iPhone) both times and saw the different prices on the same screen. Like I posted above right now they still show the $99 on the "all magazine" screen but when you click into the Pmags is shows $125, it did not do that at 2pm.

    If it is something like you say then great because I would like to be wrong about them and this honestly.
     
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    I've seen enough websites make errors in pricing. If your order goes through good for you. If they catch the error and then fix it, what can you say? Not sure what there is to be upset about?
     
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    I think someone is jumping to conclusions. It was probably a pre planned thing that just so happened on this day of tragedy.

    Why don't you email Brownells and find out?
     
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    I looked at these PMags 10-packs yesterday, as I was considering a purchase. I can vouch for the fact that they were $99 for the 10-pack of non-Maglevel mags. The black and FDE mags were the ones I was considering. In the case of this sale, it didn't matter if you were logged-in to your account or not; the price was the same (I checked both ways).

    If the price increase and the timing of it was in fact driven by the latest shooting, I share Ruggles' disappointment in Brownells, and I will be telling them so.

    Based on the interactions I've had with them over the last few decades, I quite honestly would have expected them to be above this type of crap. This is the company that told me more than once to send back a part that wasn't working for me (for a refund), even though I had modified it in an attempt to make it work. I thanked them, but refused to do so, as I didn't think it was the right thing to do, even if they encouraged it.

    Now this. They've dropped a few notches in my book. I suppose I'm just showing how naive I am, but still...
     
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    Did you talk to them while typing your post? It seems you go from if they did to they did fairly quickly. Do you know something you're not sharing?
     
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    Not on their motive(s), but I did type that post in several sections, and it probably reflects my building disappointment at what I had found on the price change itself as I retraced my steps a few days ago. I checked the price that was linked in Ruggles' post, the price that I remembered seeing, and the "Sale" email that I received from them a couple of days ago. The items in question were not featured in the email, but a link in that email is how I had arrived at the site when I was looking around for the mags. The list page that Ruggles linked showed the price I remembered, but when it showed a higher price after you opened the link to the mags; well, that kind of says it all. There are NO mags at the lowest price shown on the list page right now; even the PMags that are out-of-stock are the higher price. To me, that means they raised the price, and the only real question is why. If they DID do it because of the tragedy, can we trust them if they tell us they didn't? If they admit that was the reason, then do we really want to know that? Is there any possible outcome that explains this in a satisfactory manner, for those of us who think it's a cruddy way to do business?

    EDIT: for anyone who doubts the previous price, if you Google search for "brownells pmag 10-pack", you'll get many hits in the first couple of pages referencing the $99.99 price. It was popular enough that many folks and sites commented on it or linked to it. Examples:

    http://jerkingthetrigger.com/blog/2012/12/14/pmag-10-packs-on-sale-at-brownells/

    http://www.northwestfirearms.com/gr...6-polymer-magazines-$99-99-free-shipping.html

    According to the above thread, "Computer issues" is the response one person got when they tried to order some at the $99.99 price yesterday, but were charged more in their cart. Apparently they honored the $99.99 price over the phone, and he was able to buy them at that price. As Ruggles said, that's not really the issue here, and I agree.

    Even the link in that thread that was labeled "Magpul AR-15/M16 Polymer Magazines-10 Pack - $99.99 + Free Shipping @ Brownells" goes to the $125 priced item, now.
     
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    I just found this on another site that linked to the deal:

    http://www.slickguns.com/product/magpul-ar-15m16-polymer-magazines-10-pack

    "$99.99 PMAG 10 Pack Promotion
    Submitted by Brownells on Fri, 2012-12-14 15:15.

    $99.99 PMAG 10 Pack Promotion Update -

    I wanted to give you all an update on the PMAG promotion that we were running. Unfortunately due to elevated demand for PMAGs the quantity that we had allocated to this promotion diminished much quicker than anticipated. With this, we unfortunately had to end this promotion early.

    We still have free shipping on all orders over $99 through December 16th. Please use promo code DSR or DV2 at checkout.

    Our apologies for any inconvenience that this has caused!"

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    Sorry, still not passing the smell test for me. Just my personal opinion, of course.
     
  20. Ruggles

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    Well it sounds like a mixture of things occurred yesterday to cause the confusion over pricing. I will give Brownells the benefit of the doubt on this myself. Like I said I really do like doing business with them.

    Thanks DJ I thought I was going crazy for a sec there......