close

Privacy guaranteed - Your email is not shared with anyone.

Did Obama actually say or imply....

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by .264 magnum, Oct 22, 2012.

  1. .264 magnum

    .264 magnum CLM

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2002
    Messages:
    12,982
    Likes Received:
    574
    Location:
    Dallas TX
    .....that the modern military does not use/need bayonets?

    If he did I'm sure Marines all about the world are wondering about that.
     
  2. G36's Rule

    G36's Rule Senior Member

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2001
    Messages:
    9,373
    Likes Received:
    85
    Location:
    Spring, TX.
    Yeah, he stuck his foot in deep with that exchange.
     

  3. m2hmghb

    m2hmghb

    Joined:
    May 27, 2002
    Messages:
    8,670
    Likes Received:
    53
    Location:
    Livin in the country of NJ
    The Brits won't be happy with that. They did a bayonet charge in Iraq.
     
  4. janice6

    janice6 Silver Member

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2006
    Messages:
    34,281
    Likes Received:
    19,266
    Location:
    minnesota
    Yah, a big stick will work when you run out of ammunition.......Where to find a big stick?????????

    Was he talking from his military experience?
     
  5. camelotkid

    camelotkid non-believer

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2009
    Messages:
    1,937
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Oak Ridge, TN
    no he was talking about romneys military experience...you know in france...when he was...oh yea that was just a mission trip to spread his cult religion:whistling:
     
  6. KalashniKEV

    KalashniKEV

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2003
    Messages:
    6,391
    Likes Received:
    3
    Location:
    NoVA
    Multi tool > Bayonet.
     
  7. .264 magnum

    .264 magnum CLM

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2002
    Messages:
    12,982
    Likes Received:
    574
    Location:
    Dallas TX
    What?
     
  8. concretefuzzynuts

    concretefuzzynuts Brew Crew

    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2011
    Messages:
    7,476
    Likes Received:
    13
    Location:
    PNW
    He looked desperate for some tag line.
     
  9. Geko45

    Geko45 Smartass Pilot CLM

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2002
    Messages:
    17,797
    Likes Received:
    1,590
    Location:
    KCXO
    Well, it's not like his base would have any way of knowing any better.
     
    Last edited: Oct 22, 2012
  10. AngryPanda

    AngryPanda Is he a troll?

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2009
    Messages:
    1,515
    Likes Received:
    0
    If I was going to Iraq right now, and you said I could take a multi-tool, or bayo with me, multi tool every time.

    I just watched a replay of the bayonet comment, doesn't take much to get ya'll all worked up does it?
     
  11. .264 magnum

    .264 magnum CLM

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2002
    Messages:
    12,982
    Likes Received:
    574
    Location:
    Dallas TX
    Good point. If one states something that is wrong in a forest and no one hears.......
     
  12. .264 magnum

    .264 magnum CLM

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2002
    Messages:
    12,982
    Likes Received:
    574
    Location:
    Dallas TX
    1. Why not take a multi-tool and a bayonet assuming one is a Marine?

    2. I'm not worked up at all.

    3. Are you OK with The President attempting to shame his opponent with an falsehood/bogus claim?
     
  13. AngryPanda

    AngryPanda Is he a troll?

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2009
    Messages:
    1,515
    Likes Received:
    0
    1. Just agreeing with what Kalshnikev said about multi tool > Bayonet

    2. Not saying anyone in particular, just looking forward to GT, facebook, and everyone at the gunshop talking about bayonets for days. I don't think Obama implied anything, other than what he meant to about warships.

    3. It's a presidential debate, should I expect truth? What one muppet says to the other really doesn't bother me.
     
  14. michael_b

    michael_b BRC #1492

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2011
    Messages:
    1,285
    Likes Received:
    238
    Location:
    Kansas
    Actually he said we have fewer bayonets now than we use to.

    Odd choice of horses and bayonets.

    Also his aircraft carrier comment was ludicrous. Schafer wouldn't let Romney respond although I doubt Romney would point out how many ships it takes to make a carrier battle group or how do you expect to enforce sanctions without strong naval power.


    -On mobile
     
    Last edited: Oct 23, 2012
  15. devildog2067

    devildog2067

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2005
    Messages:
    16,322
    Likes Received:
    1,116
    Location:
    Chicago
    When I was in the infantry I used my bayonet all the time.

    I opened crates with it, I chopped wood with it... one time they made me cut grass with it when the base lawnmowers were broken.

    Basically I used it whenever I wasn't willing to abuse my own knife.
     
  16. 427

    427

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2009
    Messages:
    6,997
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    KUMSC
    E-tool > Bayonet
     
  17. KalashniKEV

    KalashniKEV

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2003
    Messages:
    6,391
    Likes Received:
    3
    Location:
    NoVA
    Seriously?

    Did you actually strap it to yourself and carry it around with you?

    Did you have to carry the M40 pro mask on the other leg? :supergrin:
     
  18. WarCry

    WarCry

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2009
    Messages:
    9,600
    Likes Received:
    1,087
    The direct quote is:
    "Well, Governor, we also have fewer horses and bayonets, because the nature of our military’s changed."

    The last US bayonet charge was in 1951, in Korea. The last US Army training for bayonets ended in 2010.

    Yes, the Marines still train and issue them. That falls under "fewer", as does the ceremonial horses used in parades and funerals, but they're not being used to pull cannons into firing range anymore.

    So, the question posed is "Did Obama actually say or imply that the modern military does not use/need bayonets?"

    The answer is that no, he didn't say we don't use them. The argument could be made that he implied we don't NEED them - and I don't think that's wrong.

    I trained with a bayonet in the Army. Frankly, one of my favorite memories from Basic. And after that 8 week period (back in the early 90s), I never saw one again.*


    *caveat before I get pounced on: No, I was not in a front-line combat unit. I was a REMF, but it never even came up again in the training we still had to maintain.
     
    Last edited: Oct 23, 2012
  19. Tango 1Zero

    Tango 1Zero Millennium Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 1999
    Messages:
    654
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    OH
  20. the iceman

    the iceman Proud Veteran CLM

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2007
    Messages:
    7,740
    Likes Received:
    6
    Location:
    Northern Illinois
    I carried a bayonet everyday in Iraq. That would be a real shame if the Army got rid of them.