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Defensive Ammo & The Springfield 1911-A1 G.I.?

Discussion in '1911 Forums' started by Michigun, Jan 5, 2011.

  1. Michigun

    Michigun Miss Michigan?

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    Ok guys… I just picked me up a hardly used 5” Springfield 1911-A1 ‘mil-spec’ G.I…. so what is the general consensus on my choices for 45acp defensive ammo for this bad boy…

    Stick with ‘ball’ 230-grain FMJ?

    … OR …

    Is there a good option for an HP round that feeds well in one of these non-ramped G.I. guns?

    Someone gave me a box of Federal’s 165-grain (EFMJ) Expanding Full Metal Jackets, but their flat nose is no better then the box of Winchester 230-grain Ranger-T’s I have laying around as well…(not sure how the EFMJ’s perform?)

    How about Corbon’s 165-grain Pow-R-Ball ammo? (not sure how the these perform?) They sure would feed as well as ‘ball’ ammo…

    Just looking for some input… thanks!

    P.S. The original owner of my new-to-me G.I. had the slide milled out & a good set of sights installed, which is a HUGE plus! (Next on the list is to figure out a DIY grip safety ‘bump’ for this Spring’er…J.B. Weld?)
     
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  3. fuzzy03cls

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    ?? Mine has a feed ramp? 06 manufacture. I feed it 230gr +P or non +P Gold Dots. Never had a problem with this ammo.
     
  4. ctfireman

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    Powrball for me.
     
  5. Michigun

    Michigun Miss Michigan?

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    Soon sir, soon! :cool:

    Not mine... just the chamfer.

    Reason?
     
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  6. GJ1981

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    Golden Sabers are pretty good for feeding in picky pistols. They have a more rounded nose then some of the more modern loads.

    The big problem with them is they tend to have a very high muzzle flash in low light, or at least did. They may have changed powders, but I wouldn't know since I use Gold Dots or Ranger-T's.
     
  7. Cerebrus

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    I like Hornady TAP ammo. It is 230gr of +p goodness. I have yet to have any feeding problems in either of my 1911's using it.
     
  8. Michigun

    Michigun Miss Michigan?

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    If this G.I. had a feed-ramp I'd be ALL OVER either of those loads... from experience YEARS ago now with another Springfield 1911-A1 I do know that I'll be keeping away from the Gold Dots... they were reliable 90% of the time but would hang up the other 10%... Gold Dots have a pretty aggressive HP design! (Love'em with any other pistol!)

    Now, the Ranger-T's HP design isn't too extreme so I'm planning to try a box of those out in my Springer. (Just because I have'em already.)

    Yes, but do your 1911's have feed-ramps?
     
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  9. Michigun

    Michigun Miss Michigan?

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    How about the newer Hornady Critical Defense 185-grain FTX load? It's profile is VERY close to a FMJ...
     
  10. Cerebrus

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    Just the officer sized Kimber.. my SA Loaded eats it just fine without a ramped barrel
     
  11. woodrowNC

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    i don't know if he's changed his opinion but a few yrs back clint smith said he didn't even bother with hollowpoints. that big ol ball was enough. said he didn't want any chances of a failure. i imagine he knows more about it than we do.
     
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    Well... the Winchester Ranger-T's are out... I had 2 failures to feed in 50-rounds...

    Federal's EFMJ did good... but that was only a 20-round test...

    I went ahead & grabbed a box of Hornady's Critical Defense 185-grain FTX's... they did great as well... but that was only a 20-round test as well... however, with their profile I don't see having a problem with these...

    Which has been what I have been thinking as well...

    ... looks like it'll either be 'ball' or the Hornady Critical Defense 185-grain FTX's for this G.I.!
     
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    I have to say you're making me think too hard. You're pistol should have a feed ramp, are you meaning your barrel isn't throated?
     
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    It's my understanding that there are two ways to do a feed ramp on a 1911.

    [​IMG]

    I believe having the ramped barrel isn't necessarily essential to getting HPs to load properly, but I don't have a whole lot of experience with it. I just use 230 grain ball ammo, so I'll just sit by and let someone with some more experience post their thoughts. :dunno:
     
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    Ball ammo for mine and no problems at all!
     
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    Yep, I've had more issues with ramped barrels than standard GI's. A ramped barrel is more for aluminum frames and higher pressure rounds.

    I think the OP is talking about the barrels throat, which would cause issues for feeding HP ammo.

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    if i'm not mistaken thats colts new barrel on the right with the 6oclock undercut. i've got a 3 in new agent that i simply can't make choke on anything. good idea.
     
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    So what do i got? It got it used & it looks like it was messed with. The trigger feels pretty good & has someones initials engraved inside the slide.
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    conventional feed ramped barrel. and that little .03,.04 gap between the barrel throat and feed ramp is very important.
     
  20. The_Drizzle

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    I have an '09 GI. I put in a 18.5# recoil spring and have yet to find ammo that won't feed.

    I usually keep it full of Winchester Ranger.

    ETA: Pics!!!
     
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