Well, the guy got back to me and he'll take $450 for his ATI. "American Tactical (ATI) commander sized 1911. Has maybe 500-600 flawless rnds through it and it is still in excellent condition. Has Novak Sights. Comes with: -1 8 rnd ACT Mag -3 8 rnd Colt Mags (Stainless) -1 Blackhawk Serpa Holster (configured as a paddle holster but will include attachment for belt configuration) -1 Box (20 rnds) Hornady TAP CQ 230gr P JHPs -Box & Papers Grips are nice enough that I won't have to rush to replace them like I would have on the RIA, also it has the hammer/beaver tail grip safety that I like and also Novak sights so I'm good to go in that dept. Also has 3 Colt mags and a decent holster. All I'll still need to get is loading stuff(dies, primers, bullet mold, ect) and probably a 100 rounds of WWB to mess with until I can get some ammo loaded up. As much as I'd have liked to get a 38 Super this will fit my budget a lot better AND I'm actually getting the Commander size gun that I wanted to get. Funny how things work out for me sometimes, guess this was the gun I was suppose to get after all.