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damn barrel lead

Discussion in 'Reloading' started by Fwdftw, Oct 16, 2011.

  1. JLM63

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    I get them at Ace Hardware and also have seen them at Wal-Mart.
     


  2. Fwdftw

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    10-4 thanks just wanted to make sure they had em before I make the drive
     
  3. unclebob

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    Where you do your grocery shopping should have them also. Just make sure you get the copper ones.
     
  4. Three-Five-Seven

    Three-Five-Seven Señor Mombo Millennium Member

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  5. Gunnut 45/454

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    Better fix is to stop the leading? Size your bullets properly -usually .002" over bore, use lube and shoot them at the apropriete velocity for there hardness! For most pistols if you keep them under 1000 fps your golden. Though properly sized and lubed and harden I could run my cast bullets as fast as I want without any leading at all! Currently running '06 cast bullets at 2300-2400 fps! And 30-30 bullets at 1998 fps! etc.:supergrin:
     
  6. Fwdftw

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    i dont cast them unfortunatly these are store bought..


    .452
    Lubed
    5.5gr win231
    1.255 OAL

    No clue why theyre leading up in the throat i shoot ONLY these no plated or jacketed after wards.. ill be cleaning my gun in a little bit ill get pictured of said projectile and my barrel
     
  7. fredj338

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    Leading early in the throat is often too small a bullet or some times the bullet can actually be too hard for the pressures used & you are getting gas blow by before the bullet/lube seals the bore. You could try getting some Lee Alox & mixing a bit of mineral spirits w/ it & then coating the manuf bullets in them, dry & load. SOme say it helps. Many of the hard wax lubes commercial guys use don't do well in low pressure rounds.
    It is an advantage casting your own, you can match the alloy, size & lube to your needs. The 45acp can almost run on a dead soft lead bullet & not lead, if it is properly sized & a decent lube.
     
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  8. Fwdftw

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    yea i think im done with lead untill i can cast my own :/
     
  9. Zombie Steve

    Zombie Steve Decap Pin Killa

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    Never considered too hard of a bullet. I shoot .45's pretty soft.

    Might not be obturating fast enough. :dunno:
     
  10. fredj338

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    Well, try a diff brand of bullet. I would even give the swaged Hornady or Speer a try, but they are kind of pricey. Some manuf offer diff alloys, I would lean to softer for the 45acp, like 12BHN.
     
  11. Fwdftw

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    is there a way i can test the hardness?
     
  12. Zombie Steve

    Zombie Steve Decap Pin Killa

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    The school of Jack says just use your thumbnail. That's all I've ever done, but I have a bunch of different types of lead to give me something to compare it to. There are definitely hardness testers out there.
     
  13. Fwdftw

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    yea i mean i had a VERRYYYYYY small amount come off my thumbnail i mean a little
    made almost no visible mark on the proejctile.. ill brb gonna get a shot of my barrel and the bullet
     
  14. Fwdftw

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    Said projectiles
    [​IMG]

    said barrel after about 5 passes with brush and 5 patches

    [​IMG]
     
  15. fredj338

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    With out a BHN tester, pretty diff to get any good idea. I am betting hardcast, 18BHN or so. The bevelk base doesn't help either. I have BB bullets, but they can be early bbl leaders too. The place you bought them from should have something on their site telling you what the BHN is. Did you mic them, make sure they are 0.452" & not 0.451"? There are companies making both sizes for smoe reason. Most get better results w/ bullets slightly larger than slightly smaller. You pistols bbl could have an over size throat too, not uncommon. Another reason to use a softer bullet. I know it sounds counterintuative, but you want the bullet to start sealing the bore as soon as it hits rifling. A hard bullet won't do that until well into the bore.
    You could check the bbl by driving an oversized bullet into the throat & then another all the way thru the bbl. Measure them, see if the throat is larger than groove dia. Then go 0.001" larger than groove dia. If the throat is larger, match the throat dia. Again, tough to do with commercial cast as most just don't offer custom sizing. I think if you just find a commercial caster making softer bullets, like Missouri Bullets, get them 0.452" & you'll probably see better results. Then sopme bbls are just rough & never shoot a lead bullet w/o leading.
     
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  16. Fwdftw

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    Thanks Fred , I'm sure its probably the bullets not the barrel I've researched mp barrels they say no problem leading
     
  17. WiskyT

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    Expensive, undersized, hard bullets suck. For the price of one bullet order, you can get a Lee two cavity and a Lee pot and make your own.