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Crossfire Ammunition .357, 10mm and .44

Discussion in 'Caliber Corner' started by intecooler, Oct 18, 2013.

  1. intecooler

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    This is their Black-Max all copper line (Barnes):

    Using Remington brass for this one
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    This is a different brass. I have to look up WW Super Magnum
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    Starline for the 10mm
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    I'm trying them all in the A.M. Next round I may give the Grenade ammo a try.
     
  2. robhic

    robhic WOLVERINE!!!! Platinum Member

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    That looks to be some, umm, "peppy" stuff! :supergrin: Be careful with that 10mm that you don't reverse the rotation of the earth!!! :wow:
     


  3. intecooler

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    I'll try my best :rofl:

    The ratings for the 10mm was an Omega 6" ported. I plan on using a 4.75" Limited Pro and 6" Hunter with no porting.
     
  4. intecooler

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    Great time this morning just me for about two hours, so I took full advantage!

    I don't have but about 5-6 weeks of good shooting weather before I have to call it quits for the year.

    These were kind of pricey but most of the all copper rounds by any MFG are. After shooting these I have to say these over Buffalo Bore or anyone else making the all coppers currently. Maybe the .357's could use a little more Mustard but damn they shot good!! The recoil kind of shocked me because none felt all that bad. As a matter of fact the 10mm rounds I thought maybe something was wrong but all the readings were perfect MFG after MFG in all platforms. I can't wait to see Andrew smash the gel with these :supergrin:

    Black Max .357 Magnum 125gr (GP100 6") 1433, 1446, 1463. Average = 1447.33 FPS/ 582 LBS

    Black Max .44 Magnum 225gr (Redhawk 7.5") 1502, 1494, 1539. Average = 1511.66 FPS/ 1142 LBS

    Black Max 10mm 140gr (EAA Limited Pro 4.75") 1607, 1600, 1600, 1604. Average = 1602.75 FPS/ 799 LBS. This is about the tightest spread I have ever seen!

    Black Max 10mm 140gr (EAA Hunter 6") 1644, 1634, 1630, 1638. Average = 1636.5 FPS/ 833 LBS. Very tight again.

    No wonder it's a popular Helicopter Hog round. Can't wait to see what's inside for powder.
     
  5. intecooler

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    I did some others since it was just me.

    Underwood Ammo 180gr TMJ (EAA Hunter 6") 1375, 1377, 1366, 1370, 1386. Average = 1374.8 FPS/ 756 LBS
    Armscor 180gr FMJ (EAA Limited Pro 4.75") 1150, 1157, 1165, 1164, 1151. Average = 1157.4 FPS/ 535 LBS

    Parabellum Research Ammo 240gr FMJ Velocity Supreme (Redhawk 7.5") 1437, 1423, 1457, 1452, 1487. Average = 1451.2 FPS/ 1122 LBS

    American Eagle 158gr JSP (GP100 6") 1316, 1314, 1329, 1309, 1322, 1318. Average = 1318 FPS/ 610 LBS

    Magtech 115gr FMJ (EAA Elite Limited 4.75") 1224, 1214, 1198, 1222, 1208. Average = 1213.2 FPS/ 376 LBS
    Remington 115gr FMJ (EAA Elite Limited 4.75") 1158, 1134, 1147, 1136, 1146. Average = 1144.2 FPS/ 334 LBS
    Fiocchi 115gr FMJ (EAA Elite Limited 4.75") 1212, 1153, 1240, 1175, 1221. Average = 1200.2 FPS/ 368 LBS
     
  6. Those 140's are SMOKING.

    Way over advertised. Nice.
     
  7. intecooler

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    ** Word of caution here**

    Just measured the 10mm Black Max cases. Most were .432" with one being .436" to the right. Primers appear flattened but not the worst I have seen. Use with great support only!!!

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  8. robhic

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    Probably because the ground under you was moving back also so the actual recoil felt lessened by the moving earth ...
     
  9. crsuribe

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    Very interesting.... I wonder how they perform in stock Glocks
     
  10. intecooler

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    The same pistols Underwood 180gr gives me .429" expansion. If you have ran those without getting "Smileys" you should be okay. The performance won't be a ton less out of 4.6" barrel (-30 FPS).
     
  11. Tiro Fijo

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    Old wives' tale. Ballistic lab reports have long ago shown that by the time pressure signs appear you are way past max. pressure. Primer visuals, case extraction, etc., are no way to measure pressure. You might as well read sheep entrails or tea leaves to divine the future.
     
  12. intecooler

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  13. Jade Falcon

    Jade Falcon WTF EREN?!

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    These links aren't working for me. Any chance I could see the .357 Magnum ballistics?

    And is Underwood still the hottest stuff out there for the .357 Magnum? I've got a 4" Ruger GP100 that I wanna have a little fun with.

    I've got some 125gr. Underwood loads, but I haven't had a chance to fire them off at the range yet.
     
  14. intecooler

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    Probably your device. Buffalo Bore 125's hit 1700 FPS and are the strongest. Sonic boom!
     
  15. Jade Falcon

    Jade Falcon WTF EREN?!

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    Yeah, I've heard lots about Buffalo Bore, but I've yet to try any. I should order up a batch and see what kind of ballistics I get out of my Ruger. Thanks Intecooler!
     
  16. intecooler

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    No problem! Kevin's 125 would be second in the 1640 FPS range. I shoot some for testing or a cylinder every so often. I don't know how much truth their is to flame cutting with light weights but I limit shooting them.
     
  17. Tiro Fijo

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    Couple of points.

    1. the 125 gr. is almost exclusively used as a defense round

    2. 99.99% of .357 Mag. revolvers used as such are 4" or under. The last person I knew of that used a 6" for defense was Hutch on Starsky & Hutch. In a J Frame snubby this ammo chronos just a hair past 1,200 fps. The famous Federal factory 125 gr. JHP clocks between 1,375 & 1,425 fps in my 3" Magnum revolvers. In essence, no difference. Although I like Underwood ammo in other calibers, it offers nothing groundbreaking in the Magnum calibers. Just my 2 cents.