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Court Rejects Verizon Challenge To Roaming Rule

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by TBO, Dec 4, 2012.

  1. TBO

    TBO Why so serious? CLM

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  3. TBO

    TBO Why so serious? CLM

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    Should help smaller cellular companies compete with the big boys (a win for the consumer).
     
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    At least the smaller carriers is paying for it, instead of the government making them give it to them for free.
     
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    Sometimes they get it right. This time... they got it right. Cool.
     
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    Choice is good. Oligopolies price fixing, not so good.
     
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    Verizon and AT&T function much like monopolies, enjoying unfettered profits often to the disadvantage of large consumer segments. The people have an interest in keeping communications as open and accessible as possible.

    Case in point, Verizon is widespread here but in large areas of rural CO they have ended agreements with other carriers shutting down cell service. I used to be able to call from my elk hunting areas in the mountains but now can't even connect to 911, even though there are towers still covering the area. It's a safety issue that affects tens of thousands of people. Maybe this will reopen communications.
     
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    I definitely think competition is a good thing, maybe it will cause Verizon to actually charge affordable prices. It's always interesting how Verizon will charge $100+ for services other companies are charging $60-80 for.
     
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    Gosh, I wonder what people did in the Elk hunting area before cell phones??? It's not a safety issue, it's a "don't be stupid" issue.

    Have a great gun carryin' Kenpo day

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    Sometimes they died because they couldn't help themselves or reach someone else that could help them.
    Even people that aren't stupid require help sometimes.
     
  11. TBO

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    You'd almost have to be stupid to need to have that explained to you.
     
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    Point taken, but what people did back in the day is just what I and hundreds of other area hunters did this year. If we needed to make a call, emergency or otherwise, we drove an hour or more to a phone booth, or maybe into cell range.

    Gosh, what did people do before telephone lines and phone booths? Sometimes accidents happen, even to folks who don't act stupidly. And, sometimes people suffer serious consequences, injury or death for lack of prompt care. So, it certainly is a safety issue, and one that comes at considerable expense to the consumer public while the big carriers play monopoly games.

    We live in 2012, not 1912. Cell phones are a fact of life, and as I said, we already have widespread coverage but due to the avoidance of competition by the major carriers, service has been shut off.

    Fwiw, the lower cost and smaller size of sat phones makes them more attractive to back country hunters. I may get one this year. Cell phone carriers would do well to become more competitive sooner rather than later.


    Have a great gun carryin' Kung Fu day! :wavey:
     
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    The towers and equipment belong to the carriers but the airwaves and frequencies they operate on belong to the public. I agree they should be allowed to charge the smaller carriers for using their equipment but they don't get to keep a monopoly on the frequencies used by that equipment. It's the net neutrality of the cell phone networks....
     
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    Dennis in MA Get off my lawn

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    Maybe we're going too far off track, but why do elk need cell phones, or even pay phones, in the first place?
     
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    Well, you can't have it both ways. If you want nation wide service, companies have to deploy equipment. The companies that deploy equipment, generally speaking, provide better service and in return, charge more to cover the cost of installations.

    I surprised the people posting so far believe a large successful company should have to share their successes to help small companies succeed, without their own investments.
     
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    was on the fence but not any more!!
    happy kenpo day:whistling:
     
  17. TBO

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    Sharing is good for the environment, less ugly towers put up.

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    And that's where I was going, you can always upgrade to a better system, or even invent one. If you think it's a safety issue, then solve the problem and quit expecting others to do it for you.

    Have a great gun carryin' Kenpo day

    Clyde
     
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    Still can't find the authority to create the FCC.
     
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