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Discussion in 'Carry Issues' started by TBO, Jan 27, 2012.
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Better yet why don't they allow all legal carry -not just an elite few!
I'm all for lightening some gun laws...
But, sounds like this guy is trying to make special laws and exemptions just for himself.
Funny how he became a victim and now he wants special rights, not protecting the rights of others. Shocking.
Best of luck to him.
Let me show you my "shocked face"....
Translation: I'm more important than the "ordinary citizens" I'm supposed to serve.
Translation: I'm a government official so that makes me more important than you.
Translation: Hold on just a second. If the DA is getting a gun, damn straight I'm getting one too. Lawyers are more important than the rest of the citizens. I'm being discriminated against. (Dang if I could only play the race card.....)
That is not what I read. He is looking for stiffer penalties against perps. And also looking for County prosecutors to be able to carry at work. Prosecutors are part of the legal chain that includes police officers so....He is not supporting or suggesting that any law abiding citizens rights be infringed in any way that I see in the article. BTW he clearly states:
Of the gun bill, Scannell said he was not a gun person and was unlikely to carry one if it becomes law. But he said he supports the legislation.
I dont particularly like the idea that local government officials cant carry weapons when other citizens can, he said.
Some pigs are more equal than others. I guess the law clerks and others at their offices can just beg for their lives.
That is how I understood it as well! I say let every single person who wants to and can legally own a gun carry one as well! Not to use that whole Sam Colt made em equal line, but its the truth!
But other regular citizen will not get the same "Right to carry at work"! He works I'm sure in a SECURED COURT BUILDING! So why does he need to carry there? Oh wait he wants to beable to carry after work on the way home- just like every other citizen would like to but cause they loose there jobs if they take there guns to work they can't! Give me a break- allow all citizens to carry everywhere or none at all! He's no better then anyone else!
I'm not sure the state laws but in Arkasnas the judge can appoint someone an officer of the court and allow them to carry.
Again, I see special rules for prosecutors. He's not just asking to carry in the court, he's also asking for special priveleges anywhere he may go as part of his duties - which is basically anywhere.
He can carry in any situation a normal person could under law.
Perhaps I don't understand the problem or the solution - because what I read that he wanted was to be able to carry in court. I read the other stuff too, including special penalties and circumstances for assaulting a prosecutor - again special, special!
What I read is my problem is more important and valuable than your problem. That's what I still read - read it again just to be sure.
Again, if you'd READ the whole thing you'd find that the courthouse is an area where the same rules would apply, NO CARRY EXCEPT POLICE AND COURTHOUSE SHERIFFS, just as they do to all the attornies and everyone else who chooses to carry. The only thing he's supporting is for the Prosecutors to be able to carry at WORK, IE: they're place of employment.
You may want to reread the article. It does talk about carry in the court house, just not into the court rooms.
Also this would be special treatment, prosecutors want a new law to protect there ability to carry a gun at work. Have you seen them introduce any law to allow the pizza delivery guy to carry at work?
Where are workplace rules for local government employees established? I'll save you some time. They are established by laws passed by the legislature.
Who sets workplace rules for pizza delivery guys? The companies establish the rules for their employees, right?
Government sets the rules for government employees, private businesses set the rules for their employees, at least for now...
I heard him on news. IIRC there were no metal detectors in that courthouse. He made a fair agruement that it should be more serious to shoot prosecuter,judge.... Because the INTENT "may be" to stop prosecution. I agree folks involved in trials SHOULD be allowed to take training, carry. Unless there is armed security they should be allowed to carry in courtroom.
The Domestic I was jury foreman for had minimal security. Balif was 114 lbs and 70 plus yr old grandma. All female staff "clerk, judge, prosecuter,etc" When the POS got upset I decided if he came forward of his table I would do my best to drop him.
I guess his life is worth more than the lowly civilians. No legislation for the masses but he's special.
"All animals are created equal but some animals are more equal than others."
No shock there.
No company or person either private or public has the right to decide weather or not I have the right to protect myself.
That is a right given to each of us by God himself and for any man to think he/she has the right to trample it had better think again.
Rights are rights. There is a reason that they are called rights. They were made rights so they couldn't be taken away. Wouldn't the drafters of the rights had made provisions for the rights to be taken away if they intended for that to be done? (Aside from what's already outlined in the Constitution.)
Unless I wave my rights or do something to not be worthy of those rights, they are mine to decide how I exercise them so as long as I'm not hurting anybody or being destructive in the process.
I do believe that's the intention of having a right in the first place. A guaranteed freedom.
I see no problem with prosecutors being armed. They face some of the worst people in society and they face risks as they perform their duties.
Prosecutors are not Luke average citizens; they are targeted as they do the job of enforcing laws.