Cops in schools

Discussion in 'Cop Talk' started by RWBlue, Dec 21, 2012.

  1. steveksux

    steveksux Massive Member

    Detroit Public School system has it's own police department, complete with a few K-9s, sworn officers, cars, the works.


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  2. How can a board dictate policy to a a sworn police officer? They are exempt from that nonsense. We have the SCoP program here in VA Special Conservators of the Peace, we also have a new one they are rolling out specifically for Campus Cops.

  3. Cops are already in about a 1/2 of our schools now. I had one when going to school in the 70.
  4. Probably because they work for the school board. We have school police here and they have all sorts of silly policies. The Chief answers to the superintendent and the officers answer to the principals and the chief.
  5. lawman800

    lawman800 Juris Glocktor

    You know the rules....

  6. Exactly; they are employed by the school board, so the school board sets their policies.
  7. Around here, many school districts have their own police departments, anywhere from Houston ISD down to some pretty small ISDs. All the ones I've seen are fully-equipped and drive patrol cars. Even teachers and school admin haven't fully gone the way of hand-wringing libtardedness in Texas...yet.
  8. RWBlue

    RWBlue Mr. CISSP, CISA

    Very bad idea forming a police department under educators. It would be like forming a police department under a bunch of scientists. It is not that they are not knowledgeable, but they don't think the correct way to run a police department.
  9. I agree, having worked for a private university public safety department in the past; some of the things they want are ridiculous, inconsistant, unsafe, sometimes illegal, and just plain stupid!
  10. You just described 99.99% of college PDs.
  11. Ship A'Hoy

    Ship A'Hoy Trigger Control

    Pittsburgh has a School Police department but they are not armed.
  12. RWBlue

    RWBlue Mr. CISSP, CISA

    At a college level, you might have a better chance, but at a school board level, NO way.
  13. Ship A'Hoy

    Ship A'Hoy Trigger Control

    School Obama's Daughters Attend Has 11 Armed Guards

    The school, Sidwell Friends School in Washington, DC, has 11 security officers and is seeking to hire a new police officer as we speak.

    If you dismiss this by saying, "Of course they have armed guards -- they get Secret Service protection," then you've missed the larger point.

    The larger point is that this is standard operating procedure for the school, period. And this is the reason people like NBC's David Gregory send their kids to Sidwell, they know their kids will be protected from the carnage that befell kids at a school where armed guards weren't used (and weren't even allowed).
  14. lawman800

    lawman800 Juris Glocktor

    Depends on the administration who are responsible. I've seen some really good ones run by those who know the business as they are retired cops who went into education or those who know better and hire good chiefs and let them run it the way a police department should be run and stay out of it while they tend to education.

    Unfortunately, those are the exceptions and not the rule.
  15. lawman800

    lawman800 Juris Glocktor

    Negative around these parts.

    School (K-12) police have better equipment and resources than a lot of the little community college police and the big public university police agencies are pretty good too like the UC or CSU system but private colleges cannot have police in CA.

    More than a few community college police are not armed or barely get to do any policing because they have no resources since they only cover 1 or 2 relatively small campuses compared to some school districts here which are bigger than cities.
  16. Schools in D.C have police from MPD in them already. High school and Jr. High
  17. nikerret

    nikerret Mr. Awesome

    The community college I attended only had unarmed security. A group of us tried to get them to be armed, but we were told there was no reason to scare people with guns. This was, at the time (and probably still is) the most affluent community college in the State.
  18. lawman800

    lawman800 Juris Glocktor

    What is an "affluent" community college?

    In CA, community colleges are pretty much a step above public K-12 in terms of prestige... private academies are where it's at.
  19. volsbear

    volsbear IWannaBeSedated
    Lifetime Member

    Hasn't that stupid crap for brains ever seen "The Seige"?

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