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Discussion in '1911 Forums' started by Quack, Feb 27, 2010.

  1. Quack

    Quack Rent this space

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    we to the range today with some friends.
    i went to finally shoot my XDm and M&P9 Pro.
    don't worry, i had too my Wilson, Brown & STI with me as well.

    my one friend just got a mil-spec, so he was breaking it in.
    i loaded up a few mags for my other friend to shoot my Brown.
    his first shot was a bullseye @ 7yards, which is pretty good because he would be lucky to do that with any of the other guns. the rest of the mag and the 2nd mag were about an inch.

    i then loaded 2 mags, moved the target out to 15yards and handed him the Wilson Longslide. his 2 mag group was ~2". now he's really liking the 1911's.

    he also shot the STI pretty well too. now he's pretty set on getting a 1911 :supergrin:.

    as for the polymer's it seemed that between the Glock, XDm (w/ Springer trigger kit) and M&P9 Pro (w/ apex sear), the favorite was the M&P, followed by the Glock (though after shooting the 1911's it naturally pointed high) and the least favorite of the 3 was the XDm.

    the favorite of the day were the 1911's ;)
     
  2. Officer's Match

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    Funny how some say the 1911 is outdated, even obsolete. Seems the new breed of polymer framed pistols are better in every way. Except actually shooting them. :wavey:
     

  3. Quack

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    he's looking at getting a commander size for carry, but was worried about the whole C&L'd thing, then we showed him how it's safer compared to the polymers.

    yep, new technology doesn't always mean better. JMB knew what he was doing. Glock know's cabinet knobs :whistling:
     
  4. Jason D

    Jason D INFRINGED Silver Member Millennium Member

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    I wonder how the Glock will fare when it's 100 years old, or any other fantastic plastic for that matter. There is a reason the venerable 1911s are still made.
     
  5. Disregarded9-side

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    The Glock pistol will still be around in some form or another (laser or not) in 100 years because the aggressive grip angle and the low bore axis make it easy to instinctively point and shoot.
    And the triple-safe-at-the-ready action.
    And the frame.
     
  6. Officer's Match

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    A reason that is amply demonstrated by shooting a good one.
     
  7. hatidua

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    right here
    I've never been an apostle: don't like it, don't shoot it. -Not my problem.
     
  8. Officer's Match

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    No? But the 1911 forum interests you? :dunno:
     
  9. Jason D

    Jason D INFRINGED Silver Member Millennium Member

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    I would like to see a 100 year old Glock specimen being fired.
    Barring the company going out of business, I can see there being the brand still around. I would like to know how the polymer frame will fare.
     
  10. josp

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    when asked by younger guys about why I pack the heavy old gun, I ask if they want to shoot against it for beer money. So far, I've been drinking for free.:tongueout:
     
  11. Brucev

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    I like the 1911. I've been shooting and enjoying one or more of them for 30 years. Currently I have a SA Mil-Spec in (surprise!) .45 ACP that is a pleasure to own and shoot. I am very pleased with it. I also have a G-22 with which I am very well pleased. It is light, accurate, powerful and supremely reliable. It goes with me in the car when I am on a road trip and at home occupies the nightstand in the bedroom. Either pistol would be fine for just about any use to which one might put a handgun. 100 years from now may God bless America to be free with our Constitutional rights intact. May God bless America to be a country where we will be able to buy all the 1911's and Glock's and other handguns we might want.
     
  12. gconan

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    It seems everyone, and I do mean everyone shoots better with the John Moses Browning design.:thumbsup:
     
  13. glock2740

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    I have the XDm9 and the M&P Pro9 too. The M&P Pro has by a long shot, the better trigger between the two. The XDm9 trigger is very mushy, but it is a shooter. I'm seriously considering a trigger job on it. Neither has near the trigger of my Kimber Target II in 9mm, but the M&P Pro9 comes in a very close second. That gun has a great trigger for a poly framed combat pistol. Love'em all:supergrin:
     
  14. Officer's Match

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    Possible exception being the P7 HK.
     
  15. Quack

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    even with the Springer Precision trigger kit in, the XDm still feels mushy.

    The Apex sear in the M&P gives it a shorter reset and the trigger pull is also lighter. now it's as short as the XDm w/ Springer

    bac, i'll trade you the XDm for a 1911 :supergrin:
     
  16. SIGShooter

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    I fully agree with you on this!

    I have my Glocks, I have my Sigs, I have my 1911s and I have my M8.

    I like the 1911 and the M8 out of all of them. The Sigs come in a close second.

    As for the Glocks being around in a 100 years...I remember back a few years ago reading an article about a Glock from 1988 (IIRC) that had to go back to Glock to have the lower replaced. It had something to do with the polymer degrading over the years because of sun, weather and natural elements.
     
  17. bac1023

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    Very true. :)
     
  18. I like and respect the 1911-pattern guns, but let's be real... In fact, let's leave a 1911 pattern gun, and a Glock out in the weather for just a month... then let's shoot them both until they stop. I know which one I'm betting to be the last pistol still firing. :whistling:

    Respect for one design should not mandate disdain for all others, there are lots of kool-aid drinkers on both sides, but in the middle are those with sense and an open mind. :cool:
     
  19. Officer's Match

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    You make valid points. And certainly your point of extremes (frankly deliberate firearm abuse) holds water, but my perspective is I want the pistol that will allow me the highest degree of shooting performance given the level of firearm care that I will be providing.
     
  20. bac1023

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    Yeah, the 1911s will always steal the show at the range. :)