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Considering making an M16A4 clone.....recommend me a good rifle as a base..

Discussion in 'Black Rifle Forum' started by Airborne Infantryman, Jun 22, 2011.


  1. Airborne Infantryman

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    See title above- I am considering making an M16A4 clone, and wanted some input as to what a good base rifle would be. Any ideas?
     

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    everyone will just say BCM
     

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    That is where I bought my 20" AR upper.


    I think Stag makes a nice 20" AR as does RRA. :wavey:
     
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    Palmetto state armory (PSA) is coming out with a 20" flat top upper -w bcg and ch within the next few weeks. Not the absolute best but plenty good enough with all the right specs and customer service and at a very good price. $400.

    http://palmettostatearmory.com/ar-complete-uppers.php

    I believe they use anchor harvey forged uppers and wilson arms barrels.
     
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    I would not use any upper that has the company's name/logo marked on it, such as RRA and BCM. I don't reccomend Stag anymore either after their CS screwed the pooch multiple times in fixing my rifle.

    For your lower receiver, I favor the McKay lowers from NoDak Spud. I have three and built one so far without a problem. They are priced cheap but are high quality; fit seems to be average and forgings are finished as good as any others I have seen- no gouges, flash marks, etc. Plus they don't have any snakes, spiders, or deer heads on them.
     
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    What does the logo have to do with the quality of the weapon ?
     
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    Obviously nothing, I just don't like the look. I imagine there are some brand loyal people out there that love them though.
     
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    I'd say most on this forum are very loyal to BCM,am starting to feel guilty for not owning one.
     
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    Looked at BCMs specs; I'm probably gonna get the BCM A4, and put a rail on it. Trying to make a clone of my units SDM rifles; an A4 w/ a Trijicon ACOG TA31RCOA4 and a Harris 6-9 Bipod without swivel. I've seen or DMs touch targets a 600m like its nothing with that setup; not that I can't do that, but I just like the look of our SDM rifles.
     
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    I have beat my bcm up like it owes me money and it's never coughed.
     
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    BCM is good if they have what you want in stock. I'd have no reservations with a PSA either.
     
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    If you're going to make an SDM, I'd swap the standard A-4 barrel out for something a little nicer like a White Oak Armament, or Noveske.
     
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    The white BCM logo on their uppers can be easily covered up with birchwood casey alumablack. I think it's silly for somebody to disregard a quality product simply because of a cosmetic logo.
     
  16. Airborne Infantryman

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    Yes. That one; that is the one I want to get. Just gotta wait for BCM to start taking orders again....
     
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    Good luck getting a complete one from BCM right now (or anytime soon) though.
    As previously mentioned, Palmetto State Armory is coming out with a complete 20" upper as early as next week. Hard to beat for $400.
     
  18. Airborne Infantryman

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    I agree. I'll have to check them out. I just had my first dealing with PSA, as I bought 420 rounds of M855 Lake City from them. Kinda impatient that my order hasn't shipped yet, but I'm sure they are busy.
     
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    Well you saw my post today about my DPMS, I am happy with it. I use it for general purpose shooting and it will be along on some coyote hunts. I got it from MidwayUSA for 488 bucks shipped, they also make A3 flat top versions. I handled a RRA 20" A3 upper not to long ago and it was very nice. If PSA would have had a 20" A3 at the time I probably would have got it, but I really did want the A2 upper for some reason and most companies cater to the flat tops. It seems PSA gives you a lot of gun for the money. I have one of their new 16" dissipators on order so I will let you know how it shoots when I get it. The PSA uppers come complete with bolt carrier groups. I can tell you this for sure though, the 20" standard AR is a nice handling, pointing, shooting rifle. Its not gonna jump up the list over my M1A scout but it is a very nice feeling rifle in the hands. I think you will really like it, whatever you decide on.
     
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    I like that A2 you have, and I'll have to check out the Flat top version. I'd like to check out PSA as well.
     
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