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Confessions of the BATFE

Discussion in 'Gun-Control Issues' started by FearTheBoomAndBust, Dec 27, 2011.

  1. Jerry

    Jerry Staff Member Moderator Millennium Member

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    Here’s another way BATF&E manipulates law/code and screws over citizens. It’s despicable!

    Copied and pasted from http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1392785

    Discussion of this starts around post # 14.


    OR! If you don’t receive a letter and or don’t follow firearms boards you will unwittingly become a felon. If reported/caught with the stock, kiss owing firearms goodbye forever. + receive a nice life changing vacation at the Iron Bar Hotel. All courtesy of your friendly BATF&E.
     
    Last edited: Jan 8, 2012
  2. Jerry

    Jerry Staff Member Moderator Millennium Member

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    It's been 10 days since you started this thread. Posts 2, 5, 7 and 16 have asked legitimate questions. Are you going to respond or is the kitchen too hot? :dunno:
     


  3. DustyJacket

    DustyJacket Directiv 10-289

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    Serious question: Who started this requirement for imported firearms to have a "sporting purpose"?

    The ATF or congress or who?
     
  4. Jerry

    Jerry Staff Member Moderator Millennium Member

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    It appears that it’s the ATFs idea. http://cheaperthandirt.com/blog/?p=6413

    But lets us not forget that according to our own FearTheBoomAndBust the BATF&E only wants to “protect” our 2nd Amendment rights. :upeyes:

    I’d love to hear how banning firearms protects my right. :dunno: :puking:
     
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  5. Jerry

    Jerry Staff Member Moderator Millennium Member

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    Topical of government agents! There never around when you want them but they always show up when you don’t. :rofl:
     
  6. DustyJacket

    DustyJacket Directiv 10-289

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    Perhaps he wised up.

    He has posted that he used to be BATFE and now works for the USSS. I doubt his new employers like that. There are implications whenever you ID your employer and then make any posting on-line. (My annually mandatory training is kicking in.)

    In fact, having been outwardly a civilian but involved in government activities, I can't believe he is USSS and talks about it on-line. It is OK for a LEO to do so, as long as they watch themself, but not USSS and other agencies whose agents are plainclothes.

    His best bet is to have this ID closed and start a new one.
     
  7. IhRedrider

    IhRedrider Not a walker

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    Feartheboomandthebust,

    You have been called out and you have not answered. If it is because something has happened and you cannot, I hope that you can get that resolved as soon as possible.

    If have not responded because you are a liberal, liberty stealing, hate mongering troll and you know that you cannot defend anything that you claim. I am glad to see that you now realize that you stand in an indefensible position and no longer wish to be show you errors in thought. So your response to this is, no response.

    To everyone who enjoys their freedoms, The attacks of those who wish to take them from you are all around us, they will sometime try to appear to be the "reasonable" version of us,presenting compromise of the truth as a safe and fair way to do things. Don't be fooled, they are far more dangerous then the self espoused haters of freedom and liberty. Don't let them spread their lies unchallenged. That is what they want and need us to do in order for them to convince those who are to comfortable in life to think for themselves.
     
  8. tim12232

    tim12232 Pistolero

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    I think its funny how in the first post you use an all encompassing "all of my coworkers"
    when in a previous post by you, you mentioned 90 percent, which isnt all?!

     
  9. isis07734

    isis07734 Nice guy

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    ATF:
    Does a SBS barrel have to be measures from the breach face or the end of the chamber?
     
  10. Jerry

    Jerry Staff Member Moderator Millennium Member

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    It seems FearTheBoomAndBus has vacated the premises. And please tell me you really don’t expect and answer here from the ATF.

    I presume by SBS you mean side by side double? It is measured from the breach end of the barrel to the muzzle end. Also check with your local or state LEOs. ATF says 18” I have been told that some states say 20”.
     
  11. DustyJacket

    DustyJacket Directiv 10-289

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    Barrel measurements are made by closing the action and dropping a dowel down the barral, then marking it at the muzzle.

    It is documented in the NFA manual and on the web site.
     
  12. DustyJacket

    DustyJacket Directiv 10-289

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    SBS = Short Barrelled Shotgun

    SBR = Short Barrelled Rifle
     
  13. Jerry

    Jerry Staff Member Moderator Millennium Member

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  14. concretefuzzynuts

    concretefuzzynuts Brew Crew

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    outstanding!!!
     
  15. Mister_Beefy

    Mister_Beefy Legal & Proper

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    disappearing in the face of further elaboration and/or substantiation of claims and arguments is status quo for LEOs around here.
     
  16. Javelin

    Javelin Got Glock? Silver Member

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    I am going to have to side with Jerry on this one.
     
  17. Short summary of the original post: don't blame us, we are just following the orders.
     
  18. sdsnet

    sdsnet NRA Member CLM

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    Just look at his name "Fear the boom and bust".