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Concealed Carry in Restaurants w/ alcohol

Discussion in 'Bluegrass Glockers' started by uscmas412, Jun 1, 2007.

  1. uscmas412

    uscmas412 Got GLOCK?

    Jan 27, 2005
    The law on is somewhat vague on this matter. I take the law to mean you can carry in a restaurant that serves alcohol, but not in the actual place where the alcohol is served (i.e. the bar). Is this correct? In SC we cannot carry in a restaurant that serves alcohol.
  2. Houngan


    Jun 25, 2006
    Louisville, KY
    That sounds about right, although let's face it, where the bar ends and the restaurant begins is a pretty fuzzy matter in a lot of places.


  3. fryeg7


    Feb 23, 2007
    Louisville, KY
    i am both a kentucky CCDW holder and certifed instructor, so i can offer a somewhat 'expert' opinion.

    you can carry (fully loaded) in restaurants that serve alcohol provided you don't sit 'at the bar'. as long as the restaurant receives more than 50% of it's income from food, it's not a bar. since louiville recently imposed its socialist smoking ban, this is a good indicator of the restaurant's status. if the smoking ban applies, you can carry there. if you can smoke inside, it's a bar.

    you may carry in a bar*, provided the weapon is FULLY UNLOADED. (*i am not a lawyer and this is my own personal interpretation of kentucky state law, which i have studied on my own a good deal). i base this on the fact that KY state law says it is not a crime to carry a concealed weapon anywhere an unconcealed weapon is allowed. the law also specifically says you may not carry a LOADED weapon into a bar. this implies you may carry an unloaded weapon concealed into a bar. the statutes define 'unloaded' as no rounds in the chamber with no magazine inserted (or any rounds in the cylinder for a revolver).

    apparently, the state considers a fully unloaded handgun to no longer be a deadly weapon. i hate leaving my pistol in the truck, where it can possibly get stolen and is not under my direct control.

    if anyone has a different interpretation of or a hard and fast answer to the bars and unloaded handguns question, please pipe up. i can't find the law, nor any precedent.

  4. domzilla9

    domzilla9 Phone Flinger

    Mar 13, 2003
    Alcohol is dangerous.
  5. Crazy4nitro

    Crazy4nitro Happy Accidents

    Feb 20, 2007
    Driving is More Dangerous...:tongueout:

    Good point of view Frye.

  6. Thanks that pretty well answers my question. I`m an Indiana License To Carry holder. We are going to be visiting family in Glasgow Labor Day weekend and I was concerned about restaurants that serve alcohol. Here in Indiana we can carry in bars.
  7. Leigh


    May 22, 2000
    Eastern Kentucky
    Restaurant MUST also have seating for 50 (in addition to the 50% revenue from food sales).
  8. What? Haven't heard that 'seating for 50' rule. Where is the statute for that?
  9. costanza187

    costanza187 I like Macs

    May 10, 2003
    I don't know of the statute for sure, but I have always heard the 50% rule myself.
  10. Brian Dover

    Brian Dover

    Jul 31, 2002
    SW Ohio
    As an observer from across the Ohio River, it has long struck me that Kentucky's firearms laws have a nice amount of "grey area" in them, to the extent that a righteous gunowner will have some room to defend himself in the judicial arena as well as on the street. :cool:
  11. glockluver


    May 4, 2009
    Oxford, N.C.
    In N.C. if it serves alcohol it's off limits to ccw which means fast food can't even eat at pizza hut because they serve beer.