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Colt Defender

Discussion in '1911 Forums' started by mrsurfboard, Nov 27, 2010.

  1. mrsurfboard

    mrsurfboard The Anti-Glock

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    Anyone have any experience with the Colt Defender? Now that I got the 1911 bug, I'm looking to expand with a 3in model. Are they reliable? How do they compare to the 3in Kimbers?

    Thanks!
     
  2. Fire_Medic

    Fire_Medic Polymer Butcher CLM

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    I have shot both the Defender and the Kimbers in that size extensively, and for whatever reason the Colt "to me" felt better in the hand, was easier to shoot accurately, and had less recoil. Same ammo used with both guns every time. I have not shot the new Super Carry in 3", but many other kimbers. The Colt is not as dressed up, but man it's just great out of the box, and cheaper NIB than the Kimbers to boot. And I just love the damn Hogue grip no matter how ugly people feel it is, it's functional.
     

  3. bac1023

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    I don't buy small 1911s. The Defender has been around a long time.

    Its a classic, but I'm not sure if its reliability is on par with the newer models.
     
  4. brzusa.1911

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    EMP 9mm - designed from the ground up to be the perfect 3" 1911 :whistling:
     
  5. 1006

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    My only experience was watching a shooting buddy buy and shoot one in 40S&W. It ran 100% for all the rounds (about a thousand) that he shot in it before trading it for a Kimber Ultra in 45. He only traded because he could not find 40 mags anywhere and he wanted a 45.
     
  6. bac1023

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    Yeah, SA seems to have gotten it right with the EMP.

    The 1911 is inherently not as reliable with a 3" barrel, so SA redesigned the EMP.

    Its not quite a 1911, but its close and it works. :)
     
  7. stumpjumper

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    The only issue I've had with my Defender Plus is that you need to use very good magazines because of the aluminum frame. The light weight make it just as easy to carry as my M&P 45c-and the same amount of bullets(8).
     
  8. my new agent works great. totally reliable so far. i imagine i'll have to stay on top of the recoil spring changes though. shoots 6in low at 10yrds. i'm gonna carry it to work and mill the trench forward of the ejection port .040 deeper to raise poi.
     
  9. oldsoldier

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    I owned one and it was excellent gun. I put about 3K rds through it using a mix of 230g HST, 230g RA45T, 230g FMJ, 230g LRN, and 200g LSWC. There was never a failure of any type. Accuracy was good and recoil is not a problem. I did buy Wilson mags for it because the factory magazine follower would scratch up the aluminum feed ramp. Colt does not use a ramped barrel. It was a good gun but I could see that it was starting to show the effects of being fired so much in the area around the feed ramp. I sold it to someone that planned to carry it a lot and shoot it little. It's an easy to carry light weight CCW gun which is exactly what it is designed to be. I prefer steel guns and would buy one in a heart beat if Colt produced it with a steel frame. Edited: There was a company that would mill out the feed ramp area and install a steel block with a ramp. I don't know if that modification is still available or not nor at what round count it might or might not be needed.
     
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  10. Don't have any experience with the Kimbers but I have the Defender, a Springfield Micro .45 and a Springfield EMP 9mm. The Defender has been very reliable, accurate and pleasant to shoot. Mine has the Hogue style grips that I really like. There is a noticeable increase in the recoil and barrel flip in comparison to a full size 1911. But not very bad and it is easy to control. It is very concealable and an ideal ccw pistol in .45 ACP in my opinion.
     
  11. tango44

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    I own my Defender since 2007 and never had a problem with it, I only changed the grips to Pachmyrs and got wilson mags for it!
     
  12. paul45

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    So, you are not sure if it's reliability is on par with the newer models? But you don't buy small 1911s, thus never had one?

    I have had one for years and it has performed without hiccup. I AM sure of it's reliability thru ownership.
     
  13. ranburr1

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    Best of the 3", .45s. Reliable, minimal felt recoil, and suprisingly accurate.
     
  14. matt c

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    this is what my research tell me too. I have not shot one, but, it is the one I would get.
     
  15. BrazosCoTX

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    Mine has worked flawlessly so far. Alloy frame. Was recommended by a guy who has owned 3 in. Kimbers, Springfields, and Colts, and who now carries an Escort himself. I'm very happy with my purchase.

    Semper Fidelis
     
  16. Pima Pants

    Pima Pants Urine Idiot

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    I own a Defender and prior to that had a Kimber Ultra II. I realized the Kimber would choke when I fired it real fast. I don't know why it did that but the Defender doesn't do it. I figured in a gunfight I would be pulling the trigger really fast with minimal reset time. The Kimber was otherwise reliable but had problems with the finish wearing too fast. My Defender is stainless steel and I don't worry about the finish. The Defender has been completely reliable.
     
  17. Just ordered a Defender in 9mm to complement my .45. I love this gun! It's ultra reliable and is my off-duty of choice.
     
  18. john9

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    I have one now for 6 months. Put 360 rounds through it with no problems. Very accurate.
     
  19. brutus895

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    I've got a Talo Night Defender, pretty much the same as a defender. Has 100 rounds down the tube with zero malfunctions, still early but happy. Follow through a little tougher due to size, but I love the gun!!!
     
  20. HAIL CAESAR

    HAIL CAESAR Senior Member

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    I have seen very, very, very few issues with Defenders. Those that I have were fixed with a 3 minute extractor tweek.