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CO delegate success more evidence Paul will challenge Romney in Tampa

Discussion in 'Political Issues' started by G19G20, Apr 16, 2012.


  1. G19G20

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    For those doubting the effectiveness of the Ron Paul delegate strategy and how that will effect the RNC.

    http://communities.washingtontimes....do-further-evidence-ron-paul-will-challenge-/

    Similar successes have occurred in MO, MN, and other states so far. Paul's delegate strategy is working.
     

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    No, its not.

    A delegate strategy involves winning them in a plurality in an election. This has never happened for RP, and never will because he lacks sufficient support and is unelectable as a result.

    Romney has easily 10 times the delegates. That proportion will only increase.

    If RP behaves they might let him add a platform plank or speak at the convention.

    Anything else is a pipe dream, no matter how many desperate posts you make otherwise.
     

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  3. G19G20

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    It's ok G29Reload, just ignore the article and make up whatever narrative fits your preconceived notions.
     
  4. Goaltender66

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    So by your own count:

    Romney: 13 pledged + 3 Uncommitted = 16.

    Santorum: 6 pledged + 1 unpledged = 7.

    Paul: 0 pledged + 13 unpledged = 13.

    In other words, your own story demonstrates that Paul does not have a plurality in CO and therefore cannot use CO as support to get on the first round ballot.

    Meanwhile, the hard count for Romney (including CO) is 550 delegates. Paul has 26.

    The only thing "working" is the spin machine trying to keep Paul relevant.
     
  5. G19G20

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    We don't plan for a first round ballot. We know that's unrealistic. We're working for a brokered convention.

    Those 13 unpledged are the ones that can keep Romney from his magic number and make way for the brokered convention. Then rule 40b goes out the window. If this trend continues (yes, I recognize that some states apportion delegates differently), then Romney barely enters the convention with more delegates than Paul! That's not a winning formula for Romney no matter how you slice it. Also, what this convention also shows is that Romney can be beaten by the Paul/Santorum coalition that appears to be slowly forming. Second ballot unbinds all those delegates to vote for whoever they wish. No one said the 13 pledged to Romney are actually Romney supporters ;)
    Im reading a lot of reports of social conservatives that just can't bring themselves to support Romney now that Santo is out.
     
  6. ChuteTheMall

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    Why are Ronulans so delusional?:tinfoil:


    There is absolutely no possibility that Ron Paul will ever become President.

    That is a fact.

    :deadhorse:
     
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    Wishing for a brokered convention is just as if not more unrealistic.

    You also lost all claim to credibility when you try to sell the idea that Romney will enter the convention with barely more delegates than Paul.

    So no, the goofy-tooth delegate "strategy" isn't working at all. Sorry, but those are the breaks. Paul had his chance and he failed.

    Also, I'm laughing at you trying to sell the "Paul/Santorum Coalition." :rofl:

    ETA: you'd also better study up on your state rules. Not all states unbind delegates after the first vote....
     
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    I did say that some states apportion delegates differently. It doesn't change the fact that Paul supporters are running for, and winning, delegate spots everywhere and in numbers that even you must admit is impressive. If you're as up on this stuff as you lead on then you're aware of similar successes in other parts of the country. With more to come....

    For giggles, wouldn't it be a hoot if even if Romney were to hit 1144 bound that many of his own bound delegates are Paul supporters? This will be an RNC for the ages.
     
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    26 delegates is impressive?!

    I'm pretty up on it and that's why I'm ridiculing the "delegate strategy." They actually are not "winning everywhere."
     
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    Only a few states have selected RNC delegates so far so 26 is pretty damn good already (assuming that number is correct, I havent done the math). Don't tell me that you're buying into the AP's propaganda "delegate tracker" too?
     
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    And when you don't get your brokered convention? Then what a third party run so Obamamoa get his second term? With RP still not getting to be POTUS? Please do tell us what if this is the case, are you willing to aid and abed the re-election of the criminal Obamamoa!!:steamed:
     
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    Paul isn't going to be the nominee because he would cost too many folks too much money and I accept that. Still won't vote for Romney.
     
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    I can't be bothered reading such fantasy. Yer chewin on a wish sandwich boy. And you got another thing coming. Reality is gonna leave you with such a hangover and you will be wondering, "how could I have been such a ….?"
     
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    I can see Inauguration Day…15 mins before the swearing and he'll be posting "but Romney could drop dead of a heart attack…what will they do then? They won't have any choice but to send RP up there…it can still happen, I'm telling you! :rofl:
     
  15. cowboywannabe

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    you savvy?

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    ron paul supporters wont be happy until obama wins his second term.
     
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    26 isn't from the AP tracker. It's the hard count direct from the states which have already formally pledged or otherwise allocated bound delegates. The AP says 55. Using their methodology Romney has 684. I'm using the hard formal number (Romney = 550) to demonstrate that even using the formal bound number, the goofy-tooth "delegate strategy" is founded in fantasy.

    As for "only a few states," that's not true either.

    So when there is no brokered convention and Romney wins on the first ballot, is that when the Ronulans will start with the conspiracy theories?
     
  18. G19G20

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    At least you admit you live in your own constructed reality where the facts don't matter.

    The rest of you are in for quite a surprise come Tampa time.
     
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    You're assuming Romney will have any official part in Inauguration Day while accusing somebody else of chewing on a wish sandwich?

    What do you honestly rate Romney's chances of winning? InTrade has Obama at around 61%, up about a percentage point in the last couple of weeks. If I didn't have an aversion to trusting my money to offshore gambling companies, I'd be all over that bet (although I'd wait for a dip when the lemmings overreact to some high-profile news story). Would you be on the other side of that bet?
     
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    Here's more. Paul sweeping more delegates, this time in Minnesota.

    http://www.knuj.net/2012/04/ron-paul-winning-mn/