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Clown Carry in Camaro

Discussion in 'Carry Issues' started by Dukeboy01, Nov 19, 2011.

  1. Dukeboy01

    Dukeboy01 Pretty Ladies!

    Apr 30, 2000
    Lexington, KY
    I found this thread over in the forums I frequent in a post entitled "Finally found the perfect holster and location."

    Here's one of his pictures of his solution to the difficulty of keeping his gun in the glovebox:

    The OP claims to be from Texas. He states that his solution will not violate TX vehicle carry laws because the gun is concealed by his leg when he is seated in the car. Seems pretty weak to me, but after eight pages of criticism, he seems bound and determined to be a test case for prosecution.

    As for the wisdom of keeping your Glock hooked over the handle you have to grab in order to adjust your car seat, well there's just no fixing stupid, although it has been suggested that an exposed trigger guard is bad juju. To his credit, in the pictures it looks to me as if the Glock's trigger is all the way back, which should mean that he's carrying in condition 3.

    What do folks from Texas think? Is concealing a firearm by hiding it under your leg going to fly?
  2. I don't know about concealing but we will probabily reading about him shooting himself next.

  3. steveksux

    steveksux Massive Member

    Jul 12, 2007
    Don't know about clown carry, but I was wondering if the big shoes would distract attention from an ankle holster. Misdirection is a powerful tool used by magicians after all.


  4. RLE


    Aug 24, 2011
    Castle Pines, CO
    I can honestly say that I never would have thought of that.

    (Just another thing that I am thankful for.)
  5. Oso


    Dec 27, 2010
    Sturgis Michigan
    I was expecting to see an armed Ronald McDonald in a camaro. :tongueout:

    But the OP in the camaro thread does sound like he could make a good imposter.
  6. mad.gunsmith

    mad.gunsmith NRA and GSSF Life Member Silver Member

    Yes it is canceled as Texas goes
    I some times have the Glock between me and the seat that is concealed
    Also having the Glock in the Glock case on the passenger seat is concealed too
  7. trcubed

    trcubed Senior Member

    Jan 23, 2001
    Kuhnigitdale, NC
    Wonder how secure that would be in a wreck?

    Rhetorical question...
  8. wrenrj1


    May 22, 2002
    Especially with 20 other clowns packed in there...
  9. It doesn't look like he has one in the chamber :whistling: I hope we don't read about him in the news next for shooting himself.
  10. steveksux

    steveksux Massive Member

    Jul 12, 2007
    Not anymore... :whistling:

    Any chance of that accidentally activating the seat release while he's driving?

    He could AD his seat rather than his pistol.

    Last edited: Nov 20, 2011
  11. steveksux

    steveksux Massive Member

    Jul 12, 2007
    Clown Carry in Camaro?

    You can take my clown when you can pry him from my cold dead fingers...

    Someone had to say it.

  12. Hour13

    Hour13 Tah-dah!

    Aug 21, 2011
    San Antonio, TX

    I was kinda expecting Bozo w/ a Beretta.

    I don't know how "legal" that is, but I wouldn't want to skirt the line that closely. When I get in my car, I remove my gun.(ever try drawing from a 5'oclock IWB while sitting in a Mustang seat? Lol.) But I have an old Fobus holster that I bolted under the dash. I can get to it easily, but you can't see it.
  13. michael e

    michael e

    Nov 20, 2010
    I would pass and just mount a holster somewhere, does he really thing he can draw, chamber and get on target when he is going to need it.
  14. Steve50


    Jan 17, 2011
    adjusted the seat 5 times and I've got 5 holes in the floor - dang
  15. hamster

    hamster NRA Life Member

    Feb 22, 2010
    Assuming he hasn't put holes in his floor, I'm sure he will still be quicker than me undoing my seatbelt and fishing my G23 out from my 3:30 waistband position.
  16. OctoberRust

    OctoberRust Anti-Federalist

    Jun 15, 2011
    Made me think of this pic. :rofl:

  17. Spiffums

    Spiffums I.C.P.

    Sep 30, 2006
    If I car carry it's C3. Usually just tossed in the console or something.
  18. :supergrin:
  19. Lord

    Lord Senior Member

    Jun 28, 2006
    San Antonio, Texas
    In TX, if it's covered by a piece of paper and you can't tell what's under the paper, then it's concealed. Simply put, it can't be discernible to the naked eye, in order to be "concealed", so yes, his leg would fit the 'concealed' requirement.
    Now in TX, the failure to conceal includes the word "intentional" which means that technically, in order to be breaking the law, you would have to be intentionally failing to conceal. Now... this leg thing carries with it the inherent problem of periodically moving his leg, and depending on where a bystander is positioned, it could be plausible that the gun gets 'made', so the intentional vs unintentional failure to conceal would not be a good defense to prosecution. Not just that, but if you step out of the vehicle for any reason, you lose concealment, period. Now consider this... if a LEO/ DA feels that your negligence in this matter is enough to charge you with anything, they will probably go after it aggressively enough to secure a conviction. good luck with that.

    That being said, it's a clear case of negligently handling a firearm to put it into the bracket like that. Someone hits you from behind, you hit something, you lose control for any reason, you have the potential now for a loaded, and judging by the picture, Condition 1 pistol to be freely moving about.. in other words, an unsecured, and loaded weapon. In TX, no concealed handgun license is required for you to have a gun in the car so suspending a license for this isn't an option, but, if that's how you handle big boy toys, with such a blatant disregard and lack of respect, then you should probably go back to the fisher price toys.
  20. jeffyjeff

    jeffyjeff awesome sauce

    Aug 18, 2010
    what are you smoking? there is clearly no round in the chamber of that gun.