Privacy guaranteed - Your email is not shared with anyone.

Closing the Private Sale "Loophole"

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by SgtRambo, Dec 27, 2012.

  1. SgtRambo


    Oct 7, 2008
    Southern AZ
    I was thinking about this proposal and thinking about how this might be written. I came up with one question. Could a law be created and enforced that closed this method of transfer without finding out where all of the guns are to start with (eg. registration)? Currently, there is no federal registry and most states do not have one either. Could this be a back door into gun registration?
  2. This will probably be the one thing that will actually come from the recent tragedies. All the law will say is that if you seel a gun it must go through a licensed gun store. Big deal.

  3. AK_Stick

    AK_Stick AAAMAD

    Jan 20, 2004
    Alaska, again (for now)
    Pretty hard to write that law when it flies in the face of so many state laws.
  4. Averageman


    Oct 22, 2011
    Forget about it.
    Too many ways and laws already on the books concerning the sale of proerty for this to work without 10 years of legal crap in court before it could do anything.
    Selling my Gun to you is the same as selling my lawn mower. If the Seller doesn't care who the buyer is, it doesn't mean a thing.
    Now, if you are a responcable gun owner pass the sale through an FFL if you have any doubt.
  5. NEOH212

    NEOH212 Diesel Girl

    Mar 25, 2008
    North East Ohio
    It shouldn't be mandatory. It should only be optional. If the Government wants it done then, the transfer shouldn't cost anything.
  6. NickC50310


    Jun 9, 2005
    Des Moines Iowa
    Or have a system where private sellers can do a background check easily via the internet for a nominal fee. Im all for it as long as there is no registry and if it will get them away from any sort of bans.

    posted using Outdoor Hub Campfire
  7. Averageman


    Oct 22, 2011
    No way. It would allow the Seller to get way to far in to the buyers business and allow a hell of a chance for Identity theft.
    In Texas you can go to the Police Station and ask them if there is an issue with the sale.
    In most places they will run the checks and let you do the deal inside the station.
    I did this in College Station when I bought a gun from a Jailer.
    Last edited: Dec 27, 2012
  8. 2afreedom


    May 6, 2007
    The South
    While I doubt this will happen, it would chap my butt to pay some jerk $50 to fill out a piece of paper so I could sell a gun to someone else. Maybe there will be a voucher program-you get a free cell phone and three transfers per year courtesy of the gubment.
  9. Atlas

    Atlas transmogrifier

    Oct 1, 2001
    north of the equator
    It's a state matter and should be at handled at the state level.
    Last edited: Dec 27, 2012
  10. NorthernAlpine

    NorthernAlpine RLTW

    Jun 7, 2010
    Red State
    :rofl: Priceless
  11. Atlas

    Atlas transmogrifier

    Oct 1, 2001
    north of the equator
    I see no way it can be enforced without a registry.
    My attitude is that such would be directly contrary to the 2nd amendment. From where would the federal government take the lawful power to impose such a restriction?

    Those here at GT who have in the past argued in favor of the federal government's authority to impose such "reasonable restrictions", do you see now the slippery slope here?

    OP, the would-be answer to your question straight from the monster's mouth:

    Last edited: Dec 27, 2012
  12. Because as we all know, criminals always try to handle their firearm transfers within the letter of the law.
  13. This... PA required background checks on handguns (not long guns), pain in the arse but fair enough. FL has no such requirement, also fair (not to mention background checks fee is only 5 bucks here not 20 like in PA).
  14. The federal Government doesn't have to worry about state laws. If they wanted to pass a new law the states would have to change their laws to comply with the Fed.

    That's how it's suppose to be anyway, We've seen with the recent weed votes in some states that the fed doesn't always handle it that way.
  15. eracer

    eracer Where's my EBT?

    Apr 5, 2011
    Tampa, FL
    So, if you want to sell a car, it must go through a licensed car dealer?

    If you sell a puppy, it must go through a licensed puppy mill?

    If your kid sells a glass of lemonade, it must be sold through a licensed lemonade store?

    What about gold? What about antiques? Or anything else you want to sell? Should everything be registered, and tracked, and taxed?

    You say, "No big deal."

    I say, "Really big deal."
  16. VC-Racing

    VC-Racing General Flunky

    One thing I'd like to have access to is an ANONYMOUS way to check serial #'s via online or phone call . ATM I have a LEO friend run the serial #, but one day I may have one "pop" stolen and he's gonna want to know where it is. Which is fine, but I don't want to be a snitch.... because snitches end up in ditches ..... :eek:

    posted using Outdoor Hub Campfire
  17. 2bgop


    Dec 5, 2006
    In the SEC
    I agree, it is a very big deal. This is not an area where ground should be given.
  18. EdTracker

    EdTracker GTDS Lifetime Member

    Oct 26, 2002
    It's all about registry. We have a registry now on new guns...

    A paper trail (uhm electronic trail) for when it is time to take them to disposal for your safety.
  19. Averageman


    Oct 22, 2011
    Look, you do not need Big Brother pemission to sell your property in most cases.
    Please dont compromise more of our rights away by looking to Big Brother for a solution.
    If you want to sell a gun and use a FFL, fine; it is your gun.
    If you think further compromise will make the Gun Grabbers happy, well they wont be happy until they have control over all of the guns.
    It isnt about the Guns it is about the control.
  20. M&P15T

    M&P15T Beard One

    Apr 7, 2011
    Arlington, VA.
    And if closing the loop-hole stops further anti-2A/anti-gun legislation?