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Clipdraw legal in Ohio?

Discussion in 'Ohio Glockers' started by smittyG27, Mar 18, 2007.

  1. smittyG27

    smittyG27

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    Would a clipdraw be legal to use in ohio? Or do we have to use a holster.

    The way I read everything, the gun would have to be in a holster.

    Thanks.
     
  2. shadow_dog

    shadow_dog Hilljack

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    I have wondered the same thing. I am considering getting a clip for my KelTec P40.
     


  3. firedog978

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    I do have a belt clip on a KelTec P-32 (it fits pocket holster with it on).

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    But Ohio law states IT MUST BE IN A HOLSTER.
    So, when carrying the gun in Ohio you must use a holster.
     
  4. Ol' 12-toes

    Ol' 12-toes

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    TTBOMK -

    the clipdraw would be legal if you were not in or an a motor vehicle.
     
  5. glockman513

    glockman513 CCW Instructor

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    But the law doesn't specifically define what a holster is, nor the requirement for a retention strap. With this lack of a specific definition, why couldn't you use your waistband as a holster.
     
  6. firedog978

    firedog978

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    As stated above; if you are not in a vehicle you can use a clip. You're only required to have it in a holster (per the Ohio AG laws on concealed carry), if you are in a vehicle and carrying concealed. And, there is no mention of a retention strap being necessary for said holster.

    I didn't mean to cause confusion. The only time a holster is mentioned as necessary while carrying concealed is if in a vehicle and it's on your person. According to the Ohio AG website on concealed carry, there is no other time stated as having to have a weapon holstered.

    Go here: http://www.ag.state.oh.us/spotlight/ccw.asp
     
  7. Ol' 12-toes

    Ol' 12-toes

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    But the law doesn't specifically define what a holster is, nor the requirement for a retention strap. With this lack of a specific definition, why couldn't you use your waistband as a holster.
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    Please, Lord, deliver us from Philadelphia lawyers -

    If a manufacturer calls something that he makes a 'holster,' a case can be made that it is legal for motor vehicle carry -

    Granted that some articles of apparel are provided with features intended to hold a gun, how many trouser manufacturers call their waistbands 'holsters?'
     
  8. (Definition: Holster - a holder for carrying a handgun or other firearm) I use a Clipdraw exclusively on my PM9 and my G26, in both 12:00 and 4:30 positions. Very comfortable and very secure. It is my understanding that they quilify as holsters but like everything else on here, opinions are like buttholes. Everyone has one . . .
     
  9. Dave Williams

    Dave Williams Millennium Member

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    In the CCW class I co-instruct I tell the students re the clip draw: "don't be the test case". The law is just too unspecific.

    Roadking522, doesn't having the 26 make you nervous IWB with no covering on the trigger guard?

    Dave Williams
     
  10. Hi Dave. No - not a bit. I've read all the possible "cons" about so doing, but simply can't imagine my clothing binding enough to pull that trigger. I just don't know how it could happen and frankly, think it's paranoia to believe it possible. (but of course - that's just me) To "accidently" fire a Glock or Kahr is, well, really really hard. Obviously, we all have our own "comfort" zone but I am quite comfortable with the set up and have carried daily in this fashion for years.
     
  11. Dave Williams

    Dave Williams Millennium Member

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    Roadking522,

    Thanks for the reply. I know several guys who carry IWB with Glocks with no holster, and a relative of mine uses the clipdraw with his G33 and he really likes it. You are right, it is a comfort zone issue.

    Dave Williams
     
  12. anyplainjoe

    anyplainjoe Nobody special.

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    That's what my CCW instructor said too!
     
  13. thorn137

    thorn137 Walther

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    It's not a holster, it's a clip. Just as a lanyard isn't a holster.

    thorn
     
  14. anyplainjoe

    anyplainjoe Nobody special.

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    That CCW class was the wisest $150 I've spent. Well, it was the wife's Christmas gift to me, but I'm sure you guys get the point!