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Christianophobia, Or Fear Of Christianity

Discussion in 'Religious Issues' started by JBnTX, Dec 4, 2012.

  1. Gills63

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    I'm not sure a super being needs a puny humans help. You are in big trouble for insulting Gods ability to smote. You should have more faith.

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  2. TK-421

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    Gee, and here I was thinking Christians believed their god to be all knowing and all seeing.

    So, are you trying to say that you're not a christian because you don't believe what is written in the bible? Because if you did, then you'd already know that you don't need to drag anybody out into the open, because he can already see us, already know what is in our mind before even we know it, and he already knows what kind of people we are.

    Maybe you should be afraid for not believing in your god, and not believing that he is as powerful as he claims he is. Because apparently he is a vengeful god, and doesn't like it when people don't believe him.

    Although I'm still waiting for the supposed vengeance to be brought up on me. :rofl:

    http://thoughtfulfaith.wordpress.com/2010/03/10/ten-bible-verses-god-is-omniscient/

    Job 28:24
    For he looks to the ends of the earth
    and sees everything under the heavens.
    1 John 3:19-20
    By this we shall know that we are of the truth and reassure our heart before him; for whenever our heart condemns us, God is greater than our heart, and he knows everything.
    Hebrews 4:13
    And no creature is hidden from his sight, but all are naked and exposed to the eyes of him to whom we must give account.
    Psalm 139:4
    Even before a word is on my tongue,
    behold, O LORD, you know it altogether.




     


  3. G26S239

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    Is that an admission that your god can't see what's up without your help?
     
  4. Sarge1400

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    Any chance you're going to answer this question, JB?
     
  5. Glock36shooter

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    Yeah really. Isn't kneeling before a giant paper mache statue of Christ on the cross spray painted gold worshiping an idol. I mean in and of itself it's just junk. Isn't that why Abraham destroyed his fathers idols? Because they were just wood and metal?

    Isn't that Gold cross around some folk's necks and idol? And wouldn't Jesus frown on the lavish nature of using such expensive things to represent him?

    What power does a rosery have?
     
  6. Glock36shooter

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    So you're being a stumbling block? You should be trying to bring us closer to Christ... not mocking us and driving us further away from him. Turn us your other cheek... remember? You are not an example of the Christ. You are as far from him as possible. You do no live in his example and you do not lead via his gospel. You have failed your messiah.
     
  7. TK-421

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    The one that always gets me is when people pray to Jesus, instead of God. Like "In Jesus' name we pray, amen." He's supposed to be the carpenter's son, a mortal man birthed by a mortal woman. So why are they raising him up to the same level as their God? Doesn't that go against the first commandment? Where they're only supposed to have one God?

    And if God is such a vengeful and angry God, why hasn't the Sistine Chapel been destroyed for breaking the second commandment? It blatantly shows a picture of what Michelangelo thought God would look like, which blatantly breaks the second commandment.

    I will admit I've been halfway tempted to go to church to watch someone burst into flames the moment they fall to their knees before the cross (idol) and begin praying to Jesus (wrong God). But unfortunately that apparently doesn't happen all too often. :crying:

    JB is infamous for throwing out a totally ridiculous statement, and then just ignoring anybody who shows him just how wrong he is.
     
  8. Gills63

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    Nothing personal TK but christian teaching does cover a lot of those arguments....not well,but they do. And a lot of those points pretain to Catholics, which are barely tolerated by other christians.

    On the other hand, I do believe a guy once said don't praise the son for the works of the father. ( If somebody could find this scripture I would love to hold it up at football games)

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  9. TK-421

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    It does not surprise me in the least that christian teaching covers it, but I doubt that they do it well enough to pass muster. There are just too many contradictions in the bible for it to make much sense.

    But you seem to be in the know, can you explain what's up with the old testament? I've heard that now it's outdated and people are told it doesn't mean as much as the new testament? Don't remember exactly what I heard, but it was something like that. Basically them saying "Oh, well all that stuff doesn't matter now, just ignore, pay attention to this new stuff we have."

    If you can't tell, I don't know too much about religion, other than what I research so I can pick people's stories apart.

    And what's the story on Noah's ark? The way I heard it, God told Noah to bring two of every animal onto his boat, along with his family, and then flooded the entire world, killing everything, and starting over fresh. Did he kill the grass, and the trees, and everything everything, or just the animals? I take it the fish were okay since they get their oxygen from the water. Or did he kill those too with acidic water or something? Did Noah bring other people? Or only his family? So that we're actually more closely related to Noah than we are to Adam and Eve?

    And does the church frown on incest? If so, why? I mean, it's part of their history, if the bible is correct. Shouldn't it be praised for making us who we are today?

    And yes, those are honest questions, for once I'm trying to not make fun of it, at least with you.
     
  10. Gills63

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    That's a mouthful man. Most of those specifics aren't explained. Don't forget God was after the people not the animals. Don't try to figure out the logistics, that's where all mighty faith takes over. It does seem that the old testament is not taken as literally as the New. And what contradictions? LOL

    You got me on the incest part....I never asked anybody that one. I believe Noah took is sons and their wives.



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  11. Gills63

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    I did have a classmate once ask a priest if Adam and Eve had belly buttons... pure genius

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  12. TK-421

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    You see, the logistics are what makes religion and the bible fall apart. They just can't explain specific details, and want people to go on blind faith. I'm way too anally retentive about the specific details to go on blind faith.

    From a biological standpoint, not allowing incest makes sense, because the species needs as much diversity as possible to prosper. But the bible seems to have a fair amount of incestous sex. My guess is they say "Oh, well it was okay back then because there were so few people back then, they didn't have a choice. But now we have more people, so it's not necessary, so now it's bad."

    And the other part that makes me laugh is how christianity seems to be based upon the white male. Ever see a picture of Jesus? That's probably the first miracle, he's an arabian jew, but he looks like what Hitler defined as the perfect Aryan. Blonde hair, blue eyes, broad shoulders, tall. No "jewish" features to speak of. See Michelangelo's picture of God? White male. All of his disciples? White males.

    Where did his disciples come from? Did they all come from the same area? Was that area really populated only by white people? Because from what I keep hearing, he came from Bethlehem, but Bethlehem is in the middle east. Don't you think he'd then appear to be Middle Eastern, instead of white?

    Like I mentioned, I'm not all knowing about the bible, so I can't tell you specific bible verses unless I research them, and at 3am, I'm not really in the mood to research exact verses. But I seem to remember a fair bit of "God loves everybody" and then "God loves all of his believers and hates everybody else" and then "God loves everybody, including the people who don't like them, so long as they accept him and become believers" and other various small things. I'd most likely be accused of nit picking and being too literal, but that's what I do.
     
  13. TK-421

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    From what I gather online, it seems to be split about 50/50, or pretty close to that, some claiming they didn't have belly buttons because they were made and not born, and others claiming they were made with belly buttons to look like everybody else.

    I think I remember reading somewhere that there was a bible verse where one of their kids asked why they didn't have belly buttons, but I could be totally wrong about that. It's 3am, my brain isn't fully functioning. :rofl:
     
  14. Japle

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    That's the funniest thing I've read in a while!! Especially since it just might be true!
     
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  15. JBnTX

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    Idols in churches, especially the Catholic church, are a big problem within Christianity today. The Bible is explicitly clear on idols.

    If you remember, all the sex abuse of alter boys was in the Catholic church too. People should be in jail, including their Pope, for covering up those crimes against children.

    I have no tolerance for Catholics. Idol worshiping, child abusing, mackerel snapping heathens posing as Christians.
     
  16. Bren

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    Which was to take the old reliable strategy of controlling the debate by choosing the terms - as in calling those who don't like homosexuals "homophobic" in order to ridicule them - and trying to turn it on atheists.

    Not very well done, however.
     
  17. JBnTX

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    If you think you see what I did there, look closer.
    There's more, I'm just getting started.

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  18. NMG26

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    In another thread you had Catholics grouped together with Christians as the majority religion. So yes, one other Christian has posted in this thread. Does not agree with your stretch, but has posted.

    (edit) Sorry it is two. That Small cult guy as well.



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  19. happyguy

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    I agree, what goes on here in many instances goes far beyond rejecting Christianity. Some of the atheist posters here actually remind me of radical Islamists.

    And certain people here just seem to be hateful people, but I seem to run into that type more and more of late, even out in the "real" world. I'm not a psychologist but it seems many are missing a significant part of a healthy personality.

    Regards,
    Comrade Happyguy :)
     
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  20. NMG26

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    And yet they make up the strongest (largest) part of your religion.

    Go figure.
     
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