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Christian Killed Daughter Who Converted to Islam

Discussion in 'Religious Issues' started by Woofie, Jun 26, 2012.

  1. Woofie

    Woofie Disirregardless CLM

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  2. Here's some new news: today's total of deadly Muslim attacks since 9/11 has climbed to 19,122.

    Out of 2 billion Christians in the world, you're bound to get the odd murderer, especially if you're willing to reach all the way back to 2008 to find him, but he did so AGAINST the teachings of Christ.

    OTOH, Islam orders Muslims to "slay the infidel", okays slavery, robbery against infidels, rape against infidels, lying to gain advantage over gullible infidels, etc. Thus violent crimes from Muslims proliferate daily. Your post was apparently to try to "prove" that Christianity is just as bad as Islam, to show that 'Islamophobia' is irrational.

    You failed.

    Having Islamophobia today is just as rational as having icebergophobia on the Titanic back in early April 1912.
     


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    Weblog of Dawud Walid - The official blog of Dawud Walid, a leading voice for Muslims & Islam in Michigan.

    A very objective source I might add. :upeyes:


    Try again.
     
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  4. You're right. Leftist dhimmis (both liber-al and liber-tarian types) desperately need schooling on Islamic realities. With that in mind;

    -Nigerian Muslims have declared war on Christians, vowing to attack until an Islamic state is established. Of course, they've already been attacking for a long time. In June alone they opened fire (does anyone else ever think about this sometimes at church?) on the congregation inside a church in Borno state, killing 1 and injuring 3, detonated a suicide car bomb next to an evangelical church in Jos that collapsed the building, critically injured 62, and did suicide car bombings killing 18 and injuring more than 40 at churches in Bauchi state. Maybe leftist dhimmis at the BBC will finally stop calling it "sectarian violence"?

    -In Kenya, on the other side of the continent but with the same evil ideology, masked Muslims used guns and grenades on churches in Gerissa, killing at least 17.

    And today's total of deadly Muslim attacks has climbed to 19,148.

    But Islamosupremacists will keep blathering about "Islamophobia".:upeyes:
     
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    As is always the case with you, you ignore tragedies caused by Christians because you think Islam is so much worse.
     
  7. Kingarthurhk

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    If it occured as the OP has presented it, it is an unacceptable act. I have a brother-in-law who used to be an Adventist minister, and now is an ardent Baptist. I have never entertained the idea of killing him. Where do people get the idea to do these horrible things? Scripture is clear that you need to pray for people who have fallen away. Murdering them has no place in scripture.

    If he became a Muslim, I wouldn't enterain the thought of harming him either. I just don't understand why people do the things they do.
     
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    If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth; Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. (Deuteronomy 13:6-9)


    ...And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. (Romans 1: 28-32)
     
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  9. The Deuteronomy passage simply means that all natural affections must give place to God's honor, it doesn't mean go out and commit murder, as you are implying. The Romans passage (and incidently, there is no verse 32 in Romans chapter 1 -put the bong down, you'll hallucinate less) lists many kinds of wickedness (it actually sounds like a good description of today's liberals:)) from which NO man is free. ALL have sinned, ALL are worthy of death (this doesn't say 'go out and slay infidels' -try to use good reading comprehension), therefore ALL need the salvation offered by Jesus.

    On June 30, Muslims in Yala, Thailand, murdered a 60 year old man (likely Buddhist) in front of his home. Next day, in Gerissa, Kenya, Muslims threw grenades into 2 churches and then shot fleeing Christians, murdering 17 unarmed civilians.

    But dhimmi moral-equivalencers mendaciously keep rejecting their Islam's record of terrorism, jihad and genocide, just as they ignored/rejected their communism's murder of 100 million innocent men, women, and children in the 20th century. As the Bible tells us in Ephesians 6:12, "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places".

    Choose your side wisely. The Good Book foretells who will win in the end...
     
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  10. eracer

    eracer Where's my EBT?

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    I was with you right up until that 'whateverphobia' part.

    Radical Islamic Fundamentalists are not the voice of Islam, any more than Radical Christian Fundamentalists are the voice of Christianity.

    You're as guilty of hyperbole and misdirection as those who would vilify the entire Christian religion because of violent acts by violent 'Christian' activists.

    But then, this is an old and oft-repeated truth, and I don't expect it to convince anyone of anything.
     
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  11. Maybe you didn't see this, eracer?
     
  12. eracer

    eracer Where's my EBT?

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    See what? Words that have been usurped by terrorists?
     
  13. So you're saying that you're okay with shooting Buddhists in front of their homes and fragging/machinegunning Christians during church services?
     
  14. eracer

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    Please point out where I said that.
     
  15. Post #10 where you again reiterated the false moral-equivalence argument that had just been demolished in the post prior. If you lend support to a terrorist ideology, you become complicit in it's crimes against humanity.
     
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    12 reasons gays are better than Muslims.


    As a politically incorrect libertarian, I often see stuff that upsets me, like politically correct libertarians equating fear of Muslims with fear of gays. So to the clueless pseudo-libertarians out there, let me give you a list of why Muslims are nothing like gays. I am generalizing, of course.

    #1. Gays don't fly planes into buildings, they just curse passengers and jump out of planes. Hello Steven Slater!

    #2. Muslims torture women with burkas, gays with high heels and haute couture.

    #3. The worst gay in the military was Bradley Manning, his crime was sharing secrets. The worst Muslim in the military was Nidal Hasan, he killed 13 and wounded 29 at Fort Hood.


    #4. Gays don't want everyone to be gay, specially fat, hairy and old people! Muslims want everyone to be Muslim.


    #5. Lesbians don't demand no-men hours in public swimming pools, instead they attend the Dinah Shore Golf Tournament or the Michigan's Womyns Festival.

    #6. When South Park makes fun of gays, GLAAD complains. When South Park makes fun of Mohamed, Muslims issue fatwas and Comedy Central bleeps all the dialogue.

    #7. When gays don't like a food, they don't eat it. When Muslims don't like a food, they try to ban it!


    #8. Gays raise property values by fixing their homes. Muslims lower them by building mosques with loudspeakers that wake up the neighbors.

    #9. Vicious gossip is better than honor killings.


    #10. Clive Barker gave us "Hellraiser." Muslims are raising hell.


    #11. Gays give head, Muslims cut them off.

    #12. Tammy Bruce rules! Fareed Zakaria sucks!

    Now to be fair, there are good Muslims out there, mainly those that hate radical Islam and want to ADAPT to the majority culture. But let's face it, as annoying as gays can be, 30% of them vote Republican, they give good haircuts, they were nice to Ann Coulter when she spoke at GOProud, and as far as I'm concerned, I'd rather see Dykes on Bikes than *****es in Burkas. LOL.
     
  17. Animal Mother

    Animal Mother Not Enough Gun

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    It means what you say it means, not what it actually says. Got it.
    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Romans+1%3A32

    Still displaying your usual outstanding insight, aren't you?
     
  18. Kingarthurhk

    Kingarthurhk Isaiah 53:4-9

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    Context is everything:

    Romans 1:18-32, "The wrath of God <sup class="crossreference" value='(AO)'></sup> is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, <sup class="versenum">19 </sup>since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. <sup class="crossreference" value='(AP)'></sup> <sup class="versenum">20 </sup>For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, <sup class="crossreference" value='(AQ)'></sup> so that people are without excuse. <sup class="crossreference" value='(AR)'></sup>
    <sup class="versenum">21 </sup>For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. <sup class="crossreference" value='(AS)'></sup> <sup class="versenum">22 </sup>Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools <sup class="crossreference" value='(AT)'></sup> <sup class="versenum">23 </sup>and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images <sup class="crossreference" value='(AU)'></sup> made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.

    <sup class="versenum">24 </sup>Therefore God gave them over <sup class="crossreference" value='(AV)'></sup> in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. <sup class="crossreference" value='(AW)'></sup> <sup class="versenum">25 </sup>They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, <sup class="crossreference" value='(AX)'></sup> and worshiped and served created things <sup class="crossreference" value='(AY)'></sup> rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. <sup class="crossreference" value='(AZ)'></sup> Amen. <sup class="crossreference" value='(BA)'></sup>

    <sup class="versenum">26 </sup>Because of this, God gave them over <sup class="crossreference" value='(BB)'></sup> to shameful lusts. <sup class="crossreference" value='(BC)'></sup> Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. <sup class="crossreference" value='(BD)'></sup> <sup class="versenum">27 </sup>In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error. <sup class="crossreference" value='(BE)'></sup>

    <sup class="versenum">28 </sup>Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over <sup class="crossreference" value='(BF)'></sup> to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. <sup class="versenum">29 </sup>They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, <sup class="crossreference" value='(BG)'></sup> <sup class="versenum">30 </sup>slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; <sup class="crossreference" value='(BH)'></sup> <sup class="versenum">31 </sup>they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, <sup class="crossreference" value='(BI)'></sup> no mercy. <sup class="versenum">32 </sup>Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, <sup class="crossreference" value='(BJ)'></sup> they not only continue to do these very things but also approve <sup class="crossreference" value='(BK)'></sup> of those who practice them."

    I don't see man anywhere within these passages lifting a hand against any other man. However, the punishment of God is made plain. So, who is the executioner in your invention?
     
  19. Animal Mother

    Animal Mother Not Enough Gun

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    At least you admit Romans 1:32 exists, that's a step in the right direction.
    My invention? I appreciate the praise, but Romans was Paul's invention not mine. I don't see any specific guidelines for executions in this particular passage, but is it a huge leap from "deserve death" to "execute"? History demonstrates fairly conclusively that it isn't.

    I also notice you passed right over Deuteronomy.
     
  20. LASTRESORT20

    LASTRESORT20 LongTerm-Guy

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    Well Done! :cool: