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Discussion in 'Survival/Preparedness Forum' started by Bolster, Jun 14, 2012.

  1. Bolster

    Bolster Not Ready Yet!

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    I am reading a fascinating book, "The Checklist Manifesto," written by a surgeon.

    The author shows (well supported by data) how checklists are tremendously helpful in saving lives in hospitals. Simple checklists, of procedures that doctors and nurses already know by heart, are used to make certain procedures are completed the way they should be. Some surgeons hate them because they're "insulting to the intelligence" and take time to go through. But the research shows they save lives--lots of lives--because it's common for surgeons to inadvertently skip a step here or there. (Even surgeons are human, it appears.)

    Then the author explains the birth of the pre-flight checklist, instituted after an early Flying Fortress crash. Previous to that, a pilot would no more have thought of consulting a list, than an auto driver would think of consulting a list before pulling out of a driveway. Now, the airline industry is run on lists of procedures. What happens when the pilot hears a big "bang" at 30K feet? First thing he does is pull out a checklist.

    Now, how about us preppers. Has anyone looked at prepping from the point of view of checklists? I know they're implied a lot, but does anyone know of a set of procedural checklists that exist, for SHTF situations? If so, can you share?

    It would be nice to have a collection of prep-oriented or emergency-action checklists referenced in one thread. Not just "stuff to have" like a BOB gear list, but also "things to do," and in what order.
     
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  2. Bolster

    Bolster Not Ready Yet!

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    Just occurred I made a POWER OUTAGE checklist for myself a year or so ago, and posted it on my water heater. We regularly lose power around here if there's wind or rain, so when that's the case, I follow this list:

    Cell phones charged.
    Laptops charged & backed up.
    Turn off peripherals: router, modem, printer, HDs.
    Batteries for flashlights charged.
    Batteries for tools charged (Makita, Hitachi)
    Batteries for Ham radio charged.
    Laundry cleaned and dried.
    Dishwasher run.
    Food prepared.
    Purchase bag of ice for refrigerator.
    Gas tanks in cars filled.
    Rain spout extensions in place.
    Turn off lawn watering.

    Please suggest improvements, and add lists of your own.
     

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  3. Bolster

    Bolster Not Ready Yet!

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  4. G29Reload

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    Prior to the list there are…mottoes?

    IE, the flight clipboard in the aviation environment is a huge standard and good comparison.

    However, there are some exigent circumstances where, time to read a checklist or search a clipboard just isnt' feasible. Things are happening too fast.

    for really dangerous things, lost of instruments, explosions, etc, its Fly first, navigate second, communicate 3rd. In that order.

    Gain control of the aircraft if you've lost it. Don't hit that mountain, don't corkscrew that field…keep her in attitude, gain altitude, avoid other aircraft.

    Then find out where the heck you are.

    Then call.

    Sometimes 2 and 3 are reversed.

    A similar OODA loop should occur when encountering bad guys on the street. No check list, all mental. Warn, come diagonally backward off the line while drawing, seek cover, if no cover concealment, fire while moving, don't stop or you're a target, if you're not shooting you're reloading, etc.

    The power failure thing for me is mental. They can happen too fast. Its 3 p on a hot summer afternoon. Grey building ominously to the west. Radio weather is warning. EBS might have chirped on the TV.

    1. If you've been sitting around the house all day and havent taken a shower yet, do it NOW. Sh#$ Shower Shave.

    2. Fill the 2-flush 5 gal bucket up with water in the tub.

    3. Pre-grind tomorrows espresso.

    4. Get the gas camp stove out.

    5. Load the cooler with ice and start pre-chilling cans of soda.

    6. Make sure all the laundry is done and RUN THE DISHWASHER!

    7. Fill all the clean pots and pans on the stove with clean tap water.

    8. Make sure the radio is charged up. Make sure the flashlight can be found.

    That's what I want. Cool. clean. Cold beverages, water for flushing, all the hygiene items and coffee to start the next morning. I'll keep the tv and radio on till the power actually fails, then kill all but the DVR and sat gear which stays on UPS so I don't miss anything programmed.

    Radio can roll on batteries.

    That's my list. Most of what I need lists for are mental.
     
  5. G29Reload

    G29Reload Tread Lightly

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    For power failures, everyone needs several of these:

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    Shop around, get the biggest you can at the cheapest.

    Great for running a small table lamp
    Charging a cell phone
    Running a laptop with USB stick so you can communicate with the outside world.
    running the coffee grinder for a few seconds, etc.

    Always plugged in and charged, by default. No worry.

    I have one for my nightstand…clock radio no blinky! Ever! Will run it for 4 days. Never miss work.

    Another for an end table lamp in the LR. Several nights light.

    HEC. DVR, TV, sat box, etc.
     
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  6. Bolster

    Bolster Not Ready Yet!

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    Good list. Using yours to mod mine a little.

    About the "my list is mental" part, that's exactly what the Checklist Manifesto is about...taking surgeons who used mental checklists and giving them (actually, making them use) a paper one. Amazing results from controlled studies, bordering on unbelievable. You'll have to read it and decide for yourself.

    Haven't seen anyone mentioning checklists for gunfights, the need for action would certainly preside. But mid-flight problems? Commercial pilots run all but the most immediate off checklists these days. Don't know about EMTs, do they checklist or not?
     
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  7. UneasyRider

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    I have always been a list guy and still am. For instance every day I make a list in the morning of all the things that I want to do today.

    I used checklists when my wife and I were spending summers doing road trips on the Goldwing motorcycle (school teacher perk for her) and we would refine our list after every trip adding and deducting what was needed and what wasn't. We took the same gear for a weekend as we did for 6 weeks on the road. Could never have done it without writing it down as a checklist of what to bring along.

    I learned to carry a mini USB flashdrive and a mini flashlight on my keychain from FerFal. The flashdrive has copies of every document that you can imagine needing if your house burned to the ground and the flashlight gets used at least once a week usually to someones surprise and pleasure, often mine.
     
  8. quake

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    Definitely; if it's not written down, it almost doesn't exist to me anymore. Checklists, instructions, whatever. This past wednesday night I made an updated list of all firearms owned by me, my wife, and my sons; strictly so see what 'extras' might be around for other family members & friends if needed. Earlier this week I made up lists (and then combined them) of LTS food put back in two different locations, mainly to verify 'balance' of what's stored in the different locations.

    I even carry post-its in my truck to remind me of things I need to do/get/remember.
     
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    What is that item that is in the picture? Thank you.
     
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  12. RWBlue

    RWBlue Mr. CISSP, CISA CLM

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    I still question if I need a true sine wave or not.

    Additionally, ups batteries don't last (not running, but just plugged into the wall storing power, waiting to be needed) very long. 3-5 years.

    Although I like ups for allowing me to finish what I am doing, I would rather have a longer lasting system for an extended outage.
     
  13. Dexters

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    I'm a big believer in check list and Things to Do lists. They are a great time saver and you can add and subtract from them as you learn.

    Whenever you see a person who does not teach from a check list or if an employee does not take notes - you know there will be a problem. People forget and misunderstand.

    When I was working and was holding a meeting; I would provide them with the discussion points and their 'to do' so that there were no misunderstanding.

    As to SHTF the lessons are the same. The people with a written plan, can communicate it and have people follow it will succeed.

    I'd say the above will probably be the greatest failure of the preppers here. Generally, they are introverted loaners - not a good combination when you need to organize people.
     
  14. Bolster

    Bolster Not Ready Yet!

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    So, lists generally a good idea.

    What lists need to be produced? Sources for them?

    Power Going Out list
    Food Storage list
    10 minutes to leave list
    1 hr to leave list
    BOB contents list (lots of these here at GT-S/P)
    Earthquake list
    Nuke list
    First Aid list (s)
    ... what else?
     
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  15. RWBlue

    RWBlue Mr. CISSP, CISA CLM

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    I guess I could go back to my risk assessment worksheet and make lists and procedures, but I will probably not.
     
  16. Bolster

    Bolster Not Ready Yet!

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    LOL, OK, but if you think of any list topics please post them up. I have a distant goal of having lists for everything prep related.

    Aside from G29, nobody's submitting any list ideas, so this thread is probably about dead. I should have known better; it's too practical. If I'd posted on something bloody and messy like "what's your favorite bludgeoning instrument" or "which caliber makes the most gore" I'd have tons of material by now. Wrong question, wrong forum.
     
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  17. tc556guy

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    Part of the problem is that a checklist will be specific to each persons equipment, plans and the specific emergency that is being faced.
    Not that you can't steal ideas from other peoples lists. Better to do that than re-invent the wheel
     
  18. Dexters

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    My lists don't work like that.
    I have an inventory list with current quantity and minimum level for food, medical, ammo etc

    I have a GHB list - what is included.

    Then I have a To Do list for the beginning of the event e.g. if at home, fill up all containers with water etc.

    Good Idea List - I don't have one of these - e.g. shower, shave, wash clothes at every opportunity in case water is turned off
     
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  19. Bolster

    Bolster Not Ready Yet!

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    That's what I need the most..."what to do when" lists... care to share your "event beginning" list so I can steal...uh, learn from it?